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MPO Policy Board Meeting   12/18/2024

Attachments
  • 03a MPO Policy Board Meeting Agenda 12. 18. 2024.pdf
  • 03b MPO Policy Board 10-23-2024 Draft Meeting Minutes combined PDF.pdf
  • 04a i CA-MPO Performance Safety Targets - Presentation.pdf
  • 04a ii CA-MPO Performance Safety Targets – Staff Memo - MPO Tech Action 12. 10. 2024.pdf
  • 04a iii CA-MPO Performance Safety Target Letter of Responce.pdf
  • 04b i Adjustment 10 Memo TIP FY24-27 LSNov2024.pdf
  • 04c i RAISE 2025 Resolution of Support - For Consideration - 12.16.2024.pdf
  • 05a Safe Streets And Roads for All - Gorjan Gjorgjievski.pdf
  • 05b 5310 DRPT Grant 12. 10. 2024 both letters signed by ED.pdf
  • Full CA-MPO Policy Board Meeting Packet - December 18. 2024.pdf
    • SPEAKER_10
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      Metropolitan Planning Organization Policy Board is being held pursuant to Code of Virginia subsection C, section 2.2-3708.3,
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      which allows the public body to hold all virtual public meetings.
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      The meeting is being held via electronic video and audio means through Zoom online meetings and is accessible to the public.
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      The method for holding this meeting shall not change unless a new meeting notice is provided.
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      Should the electronic transmission fail, you may reach out to the Kempo
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      that is the MPO at C. Jacobs at tjpdc.org.
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      Notice has been provided to the public through notice at the TJPDC offices, to the media, on the Campo and TJPDC websites and agenda, hosting and agendas.
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      The meeting is held pursuant to the remote electronic participation and all virtual meeting policy is adopted by the Campbell Policy Board on August 28, 2024.
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      The meeting minutes will reflect that the meeting was held by electronic communication means and the type of electronic communication means by which the meeting was held.
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      A recording of the meeting will be posted at
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      www.tjpdc.org within 10 days of the meeting.
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      Just as a reminder, the code requires that the public is able to both hear and see the voting members of the board throughout the meeting and that a member will be considered absent from any portion of a meeting during which the visual communication is voluntarily disconnected.
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      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      All right, thank you, Sarah.
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      And we'll do a quick roll call.
    • SPEAKER_10
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      Supervisor Malek.
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      Supervisor Galloway.
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      Present.
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      Councillor Pinkston.
    • SPEAKER_05
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      Here.
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      Councillor Ostrom.
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      Here.
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      Mr. Shawn Nelson.
    • SPEAKER_08
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      Here.
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      Miss Stacy Laundry Here Mr. Murphy Miss Montiff Here Mr. Williams Mr. Hudson Mr. Minor
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      Mr. Condor.
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      Here.
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      Ms.
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      Jacobs.
    • SPEAKER_15
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      Present.
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      And then also, Mr. Mitchell, you will actually be the voting member for DRPT with Wood-Hudson being the alternate moving forward.
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      Is that correct?
    • SPEAKER_02
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      Correct.
    • SPEAKER_15
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      Great.
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      So Mitchell is also present.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      All right.
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      Very good.
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      and Ms.
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      Malik will be joining.
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      She's texted, so she will be logging on here momentarily, just FYI.
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      We do need, you all had the packet, the agenda and the full packet emailed out to you.
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      It should have also been embedded in the calendar invite.
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      We do need to make an addition to the agenda prior to voting on that.
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      I'll just throw it out here.
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      We'll actually,
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      Then take a motion to add the item, but our next meeting is not till February, since it's the start of the year, the first meeting of the calendar year is when we typically vote for the board, the policy boards leadership, the chair and the vice chair.
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      So what we need to add today is a nominating committee.
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      so that that committee can then make a recommendation in February as to who the new chair and vice chair will be.
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      Typically, it's not actually a board rule or a board policy, but what has typically happened is that the county and the city have flip-flopped or swapped each year, like this year I'm from the county, next year somebody from the city would be chair, same for vice chair.
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      So that's been kind of the practice or the norm
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      but like I said that's not required.
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      The nominating committee in the past has been the current chair and the voting member and then a non-voting member.
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      So we'll clean all this up but that's what we're going to be adding to the agenda to handle is item 4d under new business.
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      So with that being said is there a motion to adopt the agenda as amended?
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      So moved.
    • SPEAKER_05
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      Second.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Right.
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      Motion has been made and seconded.
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      If every voting member is please unmuted and all in favor please say aye.
    • SPEAKER_17
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      Aye.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Thank you.
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      And that will take us to number two matters from the public.
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      I'll first go online.
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      Well I guess everybody's online.
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      I see Mr. Krebs.
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      Is there anyone else by raise of virtual hand
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      your little you know your little yellow hand that you can put up who wishes to speak please do so but right now Mr. Krebs you have the floor thank you chair and policy board
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Okay, my name is Peter Krebs from the Piedmont Environmental Council.
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      Earlier today PEC submitted its letter of support for the planning district's RAISE grant application for the Ravenna River pedestrian bridge.
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      We are grateful to the PDC for doing this work and for being persistent.
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      and we'd like for you to know that it's important and will really be good for the community.
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      Not only will this bridge connect the city of Charlottesville and Albemarle County, not only will it connect multiple major economic development hubs within the county, not only will it connect low-income residents to grocery stores,
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      and to one of our two hospitals and a major employer.
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      It'll also be a key piece along the Rivanna River.
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      Both Albemarle County and the city of Charlottesville are very invested in a really multi-mile greenway along the Rivanna River that will actually pass by Thomas Jefferson's birthplace.
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      So, and this bridge is really right at the bullseye where many, many of these factors come together.
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      So, super important and thank you.
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      And this also fits in quite well with what's happening in Albemarle County and in the city of Charlottesville.
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      Just last night I was at the public meeting for the city's Parks and Rec master plan and the city is contemplating what might be up to a 30 to 40 million dollar greenway system over the course of 10 years.
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      So this is, as I see it, it's not on the edge of the city, it's not on the edge of the county, it's right at the sort of bullseye where the city and county come together.
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      Very strategic very important and PC will be very glad to help in any way we can and Thank the policy board for hopefully approving this a letter of support later today Great Thank You.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Mr. Grubbs.
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      Is there anyone else who wishes to give public comment?
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      All right, seeing no hands raised or anybody speaking up, we will move on to item number three.
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      I already handled review and acceptance of the agenda.
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      If we could do the, we have the draft of minutes for October 23-24.
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      We're included in the packet.
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      Any additions, changes, edits, anything like that for those minutes?
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      All right.
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      Hearing none, can we please have a motion to approve the October 23, 24 minutes?
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      So moved.
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      Seconded.
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      All right.
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      Motion has been made and seconded.
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      The voting members will be unmuted.
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      All in favor, please say aye.
    • SPEAKER_13
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      Aye.
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      Aye.
    • SPEAKER_08
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      And I abstain because I was not at the meeting.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      And one abstention.
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      Thank you very much.
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      Sorry for not calling that.
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      All right, the minutes pass.
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      That will take us to item four, new business.
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      A, under new business performance safety targets, and Goran is going to take us through this item.
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      Good afternoon.
    • SPEAKER_01
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      Good evening, everyone.
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      One second.
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      Thank you all.
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      My name is Gorin Gergievsky.
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      I'm the original planner at the TJPVC and part of CA and PO staff.
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      We are here to discuss the adoption of the performance safety targets, which is a federally mandated process and the moving ahead for progress in the 21st century act known as MAP 21 was enacted in 2016.
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      It established a framework for national transportation performance goals.
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      This national target set by the U.S.
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      Secretary of Transportation defined the overarching safety objectives of the nation's transportation system.
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      The targets filter down to the states which develop their own safety targets and finally MPOs which are tasked with adopting the targets in support of the statewide objectives.
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      The primary reason we adopt safety targets is to comply with federal funding requirements.
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      While MPOs are not directly held accountable for meeting the targets, the responsibility that lies with the state, our targets are meant to assist the states in achieving its goals.
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      Every four years, we review the state's safety performance targets comprehensively, and annually, we adopt our own targets to align with these efforts.
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      region for the upcoming year
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      2025.
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      The state provided data to illustrate safety trends, including recent and long-term projections.
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      When we establish safety targets, we focus on three key metrics, the number of fatalities, the number of serious injuries from roadway incidents, and the number of non-motorized fatalities and serious injuries.
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      Regarding of which targets we adopt,
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      Regardless of which targets we adopt, we remain fully committed to improving safety for everyone who uses our transportation system.
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      It's important to recognize that some state level targets may show an increase in the number of fatalities and serious injuries.
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      This is because the targets are data driven and reflect actual trends, which sometimes project increases.
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      In such cases, the goal shifts to minimizing the rate of increase rather than achieving an immediate reduction.
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      While this may seem counterintuitive, it underscores the importance of using data to inform our strategies.
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      The state has given us several options for establishing safety targets which are reflected in the chart before you.
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      These options include adopting the state targets, which assume no change in the rates of fatalities and serious injuries or non-modernized fatalities and injuries.
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      Alternatively, we could use our own regional trends
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      either recent or long-term.
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      The recent trend line shows a significant increase in fatalities and serious injuries, while the long-term trend line indicates a smaller increase in fatalities and a slight decrease in serious injuries.
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      This difference highlights how short-term data can sometimes deviate from long-term patterns.
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      And finally, the aspirational targets shown in the first column
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      which align with the comprehensive safety action plan and the statewide goal of reducing fatalities by 50% by 2045.
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      This translates to an approximate 2% annual reduction in fatalities and serious injuries.
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      The last slide is just informational to see the differences between what was adopted in 2024
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      and what the proposed targets for 2025 states.
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      I just wanted to say probably the main reason for this change is, or the slight increase, reflects the updated regional crash data and trends.
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      While the aspirational goal is to raise fatalities by 2% annually, the baseline data for 2025 includes a recent short-term trends that indicate a higher starting point for those projections.
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      With this, I would like to end my presentation and open the floor for discussion.
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      I do want to just mention that the MPO Technical Committee recommends that the MPO Policy Board adopt the aspirational safety targets that are in line with the Comprehensive Safety Action Plan.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Alright, questions, comments?
    • SPEAKER_05
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      Yes, Chair, I just want to confess that I always struggle with this.
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      On the one hand, you know, we have the actual data of what seems reasonable to expect will happen in the next year or over the course of the next couple of years.
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      On the other hand, we have the aspirational targets, which I can appreciate the fact that if we
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      take a target that is lower, in this case, an aspirational one, then that gives us something to strive for.
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      On the other hand, it feels a little artificial if the data shows that we'll likely exceed that.
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      So I don't know.
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      I don't really have any wisdom about that.
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      I'm interested in what others have to say.
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      Other remarks?
    • SPEAKER_13
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      I struggle with it as well, but maybe for a different reason which is I guess the the use of the word target makes me think this is like a goal what we're working towards and not what we anticipate might happen and
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      like if it's a goal, if it's a target, if it's what we're working towards.
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      I think I said this at like my first meeting because this conversation feels familiar.
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      I don't know why we're not at zero all the time.
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      And so maybe that's just a semantic question that that's not what this chart is actually for.
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      But I mean like, no, I'm not okay with 12 fatalities, but I don't know if that's what this is for.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:17:49
      And then I see your hand up.
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      Add to the dialogue.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:17:55
      Thank you and hopefully Chuck can give some answer to Natalie's question because it is.
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      I feel like this is the perfunctory exercise that we have no control over.
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      And my snarky response will be, if and when we get after four years trying the ability to have speed cameras on our most dangerous roadways, I expect our fatalities will go way down because the speeds will go way down.
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      But I really hope that we will get somewhere going forward.
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      But it is very frustrating to know that we're not going to be able to achieve
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      within the limited authority that we have, I don't foresee that we're going to be able to change people's behavior in one year when we've been trying for years.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Is there anyone from VDOT and or staff that would, with some of the concerns that have been voiced, want to take, I know this has been voiced in the past, but any either echoing comments that have been made in years past or current?
    • SPEAKER_15
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      And again, I will defer to Chuck, but I will say this is a very familiar conversation.
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      It happens every year that we set these.
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      And it is because it doesn't feel right or good to set a target that is acceptable for any deaths.
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      And we all want zero deaths.
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      However, the state targets are set by the Commonwealth Transportation Board.
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      We are here to say we also support those targets.
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      And we can either adopt the exact same ones
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      have aspirational targets that align with our other planning initiatives like the Safe Streets and Roads for All, which both the City Council and Albemarle Board of Supervisors signed on to those targets.
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      So as staff, we're recommending that our targets for this align with previous planning initiatives, but we certainly understand and echo the comments about no deaths in our opinion as planners are acceptable on any of our roadways.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:19:58
      Just curious, what would happen if we did say zero?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:20:06
      I can chime in on this one.
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      It doesn't matter.
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      It's a target we're trying to achieve.
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      If you put zero in there, it's not going to really
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      is just what you're going to submit as your proposal, as what you're going to strive to do.
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      When you get the data next year it's going to show that you didn't meet that target.
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      There's no penalty for
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      saying that.
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      I think what we're trying to decide is do we want to show what some realistic targets might be that we might be able to try to achieve versus everybody doesn't want to have any injuries or fatalities.
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      But to say we're going to basically be able to solve that problem,
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      We're going to do everything we can to try to reduce it.
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      And what is a reasonable target based on the experiences that we're having?
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      I think that's what we're trying to provide here.
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      What's a realistic expectation versus what we'd like it to be?
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      If that makes sense.
    • SPEAKER_13
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      And I guess that's kind of the semantic question is it's not a target, it's an expectation, but it's phrased as a target.
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      So it sounds like that's what we're aiming for when that's not really what we're, we're not trying to get there.
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      We're just anticipating getting there.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:21:47
      On the statewide perspective, we've, we're supposed to try to achieve these targets on a statewide level that we set.
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      If we don't, there's, there's,
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      there may be penalties.
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      I mean, we're spending all of our safety dollars on making improvements to the network and the system to try to achieve a reduction in all of these measures.
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      And we're still not meeting those targets in a lot of cases.
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      So we're doing our due diligence to try to achieve that.
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      And I don't, and we're like everybody said here,
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      Changing people's behavior is very difficult and that seems to be the major implement that's causing most of these crashes, whether it's drunk driving or driving without seat belts on or not paying attention or speeding or depending on cars in the first place.
    • 00:22:51
      Yeah.
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      So, uh, I, and we're not going to eliminate them.
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      So we've got to figure out the best way to do it.
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      And we strive to do that every, every round of smart scale through all of the work we do, we try to make it safer.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:23:06
      So when we say it's a, it's a, again, I think it's, it's just trying to like reframe my brain around this.
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      And so I think it's based on what you just said.
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      Um,
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      It's not a target we're aiming for because we don't want to aim for 12 deaths.
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      We're still aiming for zero and we are anticipating 12 deaths.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:23:37
      Correct.
    • 00:23:38
      I guess the target would be less than or equal to
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:23:42
      Yeah, we want to try to make it reduce the number as much as we can.
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      Um, and I, yeah, it's not going the way we want it to go, but we're still doing everything we can to try to make it that way.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:24:00
      And when you said, cause initially when I asked if what would happen if we put it as zero, you said there's not a penalty, but then you said there is a penalty.
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      Can you clarify?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:24:11
      The MPOs all have to set targets, but there's no penalty to the MPO if they don't meet their targets.
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      The penalty is implemented at the statewide level.
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      So if the state doesn't meet its target, then we would get penalized.
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      And the penalty would be spending more money on safety.
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      We're spending all of our money on safety right now that we would be required to do if we didn't meet the targets.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:24:41
      yeah that's that's sort of the loop we're in right now if if we're required to spend all of our money on safety and then we don't meet the target and they say okay you have to spend even more money on safety do they give us more money to spend on safety or do they reallocate they force us to reallocate the funds we have already you don't reallocate the funds you have you don't you're getting
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:25:04
      Those, that's the money you're getting.
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      Like we spending all our age step funding to try to fix the safety problems.
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      We're spending a lot of our smart scale applications are to address safety problems.
    • 00:25:15
      Um, majority of our resources are going towards addressing safety problems across the state.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:25:23
      I'm still calling that.
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      I saw hands go up by both Ms.
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      Shackelford and Mr. Nelson.
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      Ms.
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      Shackelford to tell you first, you want to jump in and then I'll go to Sean.
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      You're muted.
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 00:25:36
      Thank you.
    • 00:25:37
      The only thing I want to add is that if the MPO adopts a target that is not the statewide target, they have to provide some sort of justification for what that target is.
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      So there would need to be some sort of language that is provided to the MPO that specifies what they're doing that is different or that establishes a different target for the region.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:26:00
      So it can't just be, we can't just say zero to make us feel better about it.
    • 00:26:04
      We've got to say zero and go, hey, here's how we're going to achieve zero.
    • 00:26:09
      Correct.
    • 00:26:10
      Mr. Nelson?
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:26:12
      Yeah, that's kind of where I was going, Ned.
    • 00:26:16
      It's all about getting better, right?
    • 00:26:18
      The goal is to get better to ensure that the traveling public is safe on these roads.
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      But quite frankly, some of the behaviors that result in these fatalities are out of our control.
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      is actual user behavior.
    • 00:26:33
      I get a report every Friday of all the fatalities that happen in the nine counties that I'm responsible for.
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      The fact that a lot of them have to do with no seatbelt usage and alcohol, these are things that are going to be out of our control.
    • 00:26:49
      So I get that this says a target of number of fatalities, 12, which is really bad to say.
    • 00:26:54
      We don't want to target that.
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      The goal is for us to get better.
    • 00:26:58
      I think with the safety action plans that you all that we're doing, safe streets for all, that's us trying to get better and figure out how to target the behaviors that the traveling public have to reduce these fatalities.
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      through the first three quarters of this year, our fatalities in the district alone were down from last year.
    • 00:27:25
      Over this last quarter, I think we've had more fatalities in the last quarter than we had in the first three.
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      There were two just this morning on Route 15 in Louisa County.
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      So when you dig into the numbers of what is causing these fatalities, a whole lot of it is not the road features, it's the behavior of the individuals that are driving.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:27:51
      So could someone please remind me the MPO Tech recommended the first column, correct?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:27:59
      Yes, that's correct.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:28:01
      If we submitted the first column, we'd have to have some sort of explanation of how we thought we could do better than the last column, correct?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:28:11
      Yes, that explanation would be through the comprehensive safety action plan, which was in the draft letter, which is the last piece of the performance safety targets attached to the full packet agenda.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:28:26
      We've done that justification.
    • SPEAKER_05
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      So I would suggest either if we're feeling particularly aspirational to pick the first one, knowing that we are doing work,
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      we're all committed to this, making significant investments in the city and the county.
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      Or we say, well, we're doing the work, but we're not.
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      To Sean's point, sort of the voice of experience, we pick the column on the far right and say, well, we're consistent with the state targets.
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      And that's the parameters that we're adopting.
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      I don't, I don't see the recent trend line.
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      I don't, I don't think we should, I think we should anticipate fatalities going down.
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      I mean, given the investments that we're making and the things that we're doing.
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      So yeah, I would argue for the final column.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:29:27
      The, um, you said you would argue for the final column.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:29:30
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:29:30
      If it's consistent, you mean the MPO tech in yellow or the final, the state column in red, the state column in red, the final column.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:29:41
      Well, first, just to offer having done this for seven years and understanding the struggle y'all are going through, I just had to suspend my mind from not seeing it as a target, as I hear Councillor Osheron struggling with.
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      I've just had to suspend that way of thinking about it.
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      I know that we
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      Understanding what we were doing locally to justify the aspirational targets that the tech board has, that was a change that what we did that last year I believe for the first time.
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      I'm comfortable doing that because we already have provided the rationale.
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      What I look for over year over year is over whatever time frame you want to look at, you want to see the trend going down, especially as the population continues to grow.
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      Because even if the numbers stay the same and you have more people, then you should have improved if the numbers haven't grown at or beyond the population growth rate.
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      So I think that we have, with what we are doing locally, the justification of the rationale to be able to, I don't know if the word realistic makes sense, but to support the aspirational targets as was voted on by the technical committee.
    • 00:31:00
      So that's where I'm not disagreeing with you, Brian, but I think that that
    • 00:31:04
      I can support that.
    • 00:31:05
      Yeah, I can support that.
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      It gives some room.
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      It gives a little bit more beyond what the state targets are saying.
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      You can see some better numbers there.
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      And I think we have justification and rationale.
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      And we're going to learn more from the Safe Streets for All stuff as that continues to work.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:31:22
      I mean, there's a real focus.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:31:26
      The changing behavior is going to become more education.
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      I mean, we've been educating people for seatbelts for how long and there it baffles me that folks don't strap a seatbelt on but I'm good with that.
    • 00:31:41
      Yeah, I'm good with that.
    • 00:31:44
      Are there any additional comments or questions we need answered before we because they are we are we going you are looking for an action item on this today.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:31:53
      Yes, sir.
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      That is correct.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:31:55
      I support that conclusion as well.
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      It's eternally frustrating to me this whole exercise and the huge amount of staff time both at state and regional and local that they're doing when it's check in a box and we're doing the best we can and we just have to check the box and move on, I think.
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      But anyway, thank you all.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:32:15
      Are we ready to make a motion to, what are we doing here, to adopt the Campo 2025 projections based on aspirational targets?
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      So moved.
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      Second.
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      All right, we'll do a, we could do a roll call on this one.
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      Councillor Ostrom.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:32:38
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Supervisor Malek.
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      Yes.
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      Councillor Pinkston.
    • 00:32:44
      Yes.
    • 00:32:46
      Mr. Nelson.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:32:48
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:32:49
      And the chair votes yes.
    • 00:32:52
      So that motion carries.
    • 00:32:53
      Thank you all.
    • 00:32:55
      And take notes as we'll have this conversation in the future, I'm sure, as we continue to struggle with this one as it comes forward.
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      But thank you.
    • 00:33:06
      The next item on the agenda, item B, is the TIP adjustment.
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      And Lucinda, you were reviewing this one with us.
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      Where's Lucinda?
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      Hi.
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      Hello.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 00:33:22
      It was just a little delay.
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      Yeah.
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      So in your packet, you will see a memo from me.
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      The tip is the transportation improvement plan, and it is the document that
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      keeps track of our federal funding allocations for this year.
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      So the adjustments that are being made are with two Charlottesville projects.
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      They are smart scale projects and they've been on the books in the budget for a couple of years and
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      There's been a delay, so the federal funding is diminishing and the state is increasing its funding to keep the budget balanced.
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      And you can see there's two tables in your packet, one with the new amount and one with the older amount.
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      the total amount stays the same.
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      It's just coming from different places.
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      The policy board does not need to make any decisions or approve this because it's a minor amount of money and it's not changing the budget.
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      So this is just an informational sharing with you.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:34:38
      Great, thank you.
    • 00:34:41
      Any questions here about the
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      switch a funding source.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:34:46
      So my question is there is a delay.
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      Is it still an active project or is it just on permanent hold?
    • SPEAKER_14
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      Um, that would be a question for the city staff.
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      Um, it's the Emmett streets, um, street escape and intersection, um, improvements.
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      And, um, I can find out and get back to you.
    • 00:35:13
      Okay.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:35:13
      I thought that had been set aside, but I guess I read the wrong memo.
    • 00:35:18
      Okay.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:35:19
      This is phase one, and this one is moving along with the city.
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      So they are actively working on the project.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:35:26
      Thank you, Sean.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:35:28
      Yeah, I think that's a different project that was... Okay.
    • 00:35:36
      Lucinda, anything else there?
    • SPEAKER_14
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      That is all there is for the tip.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:35:40
      Very good.
    • 00:35:41
      Thank you very much.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:35:43
      Yeah, to your point, Emmett Street phase two is the one that's been canceled or shifted or whatever, but we're not doing it right now.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:35:54
      Thank you.
    • 00:35:56
      All right, the next item, item C is the RAISE 2025.
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      This is the resolution of support.
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      Christine, they've got your name here.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:36:05
      Yep, very quick background and summary.
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      Just we have new folks for the public's benefit.
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      In 2022, we applied for round five in SmartScale for funding for the Rivanna River Bike Ped, Bike Pedestrian Crossing Bridge.
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      The project was costed at just over $42 million.
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      It did receive a very high project benefit score, but because of its cost, it did not score competitively within SmartScale.
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      So in 2023,
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      With support of the TJPDC, the city, the county, many project partners, we submitted a RAISE grant to USDOT for just over $3 million in order to do the preliminary engineering to help us reduce some of the contingency so that we have better cost estimates trying to seek implementation funds.
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      At that time, the project was scored by UST as merit scored, which means it automatically advances to the second round.
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      We were not awarded funding because of the competitiveness of the grant program.
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      However, in the debrief with USDOT staff, they did say it was a very competitive application and they recommended we continue to submit it in the queue.
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      The only reason it was not awarded was because of the number of applications and price of those.
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      and there wasn't enough funding for all projects.
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      We then resubmitted a RAISE grant in 2024.
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      The price of that one then was 3.3.
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      That one was not scored as merit but it did score as a recommended project and staff at USCOT did move that up to the second round of review.
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      Again, it scored very well.
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      We were not awarded the grant
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      in the debrief, they again said this is a very competitive application.
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      It just did not receive funding because of the competitiveness.
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      So we are hoping to submit this for a third time, being third time's a charm to USCOT.
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      We are working very closely with VDOT, all of our partners to find the areas where we are one point away from a perfect score to see if we can bolster those areas to get our score back into that merit scoring
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      trying to improve the economic competitiveness section, things like that.
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      So we're just asking you all to pass a resolution to support us applying for the preliminary engineering phase for Ravenna River Bike Ped Crossing Bridge.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:38:25
      Questions.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:38:26
      Thank you.
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      I move we support the resolution if there are no other questions first.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:38:34
      All right, motion has been made.
    • 00:38:35
      Is there a second?
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      Second.
    • 00:38:37
      All right, motion has been made and seconded.
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      And we'll do a quick roll call again.
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      Supervisor Malek?
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      Yes.
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      Councilor Osher?
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:38:47
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:38:48
      Councilor Pinkston?
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      Yes.
    • 00:38:50
      Mr. Nelson?
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      Yes.
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      And the chair votes yes.
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      Thank you.
    • 00:38:57
      That resolution carries.
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      and thank you, Christine.
    • 00:39:03
      All right, this will take us to the new item added to the agenda, the formation of the nominating committee.
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      Why I explained it before we even adopted the agenda, I'll never know, but I explained it earlier.
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      The nominating committee is typically the current, has been in the past, the chair, a non-voting member, which Ms.
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      Monteith has often been
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      Julia has been, I've heard, has been on the nominating committee, and Mr. Nelson has been on the nominating committee.
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      Any objection to the three of us being on the nominating committee?
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:39:38
      I'm fine with that approach.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:39:41
      John, you good with that?
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:39:42
      Sounds good to me.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:39:44
      I'm good with that.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:39:45
      Very good.
    • 00:39:47
      And then so we would just need a motion to form the nominating committee with the members being myself, Ned Galloway, Mr. Nelson, and Ms.
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      Monti.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:39:59
      So moved.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:40:00
      So moved.
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      Second.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:40:02
      All right.
    • 00:40:02
      Motion has been made and seconded.
    • 00:40:04
      I think we could do this one by acclamation.
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      All in favor, if your mic is unmuted, say aye.
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      Aye.
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      Thank you.
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      And I will
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      I will coordinate with Sean and Julia on the quick meeting we will need.
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      And again, this won't be until the February meeting.
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      So we've got some time to go.
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      So this will likely be in the new year just for expectation purposes.
    • 00:40:33
      Very good.
    • 00:40:35
      This will take us to agenda item five.
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      We have some staff updates and meetings scheduled.
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      The first item, safe streets and roads for all.
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      We have a presentation that Goran is going to walk us through.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:40:47
      Thank you, Matt.
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      Thank you, everyone.
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      Most safely is Blue Ridge is the regional plan to reduce road fatalities and serious injuries for all road users.
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      and the city of Charlottesville.
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      The grant comes from the Safe Streets and Roads for All program, which supports the United States Department of Transportation National Roadway Strategy.
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      The long term goal of this initiative is to reduce traffic fatalities and serious injuries by zero using a safe system approach.
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      The crash data that we gathered from this project was from 2018 to 2022.
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      That comes from VDOT and it is based on 13 identified emphasis areas.
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      Examples include roadway departure, speeding, impaired driving, and not wearing a seat belt.
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      It's important to note that these emphasis areas are the factors contributing to roadway fatalities and serious injuries, and they correspond with each other.
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      And what that means is that if someone was under the influence and had a roadway departure, but also was not wearing a seatbelt, they will be counted in all three categories.
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      A little bit about the safety action plan.
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      The safety action plans components to which we are committed.
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      They include strong leadership commitment, an oversight group for development and monitoring, thorough safety data analysis, active public and stakeholders engagement, and an inclusive planning process.
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      We also prioritize evaluating processes and policies, identifying key projects and strategies,
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      and maintaining ongoing monitoring and reporting to ensure continuous improvement.
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      The total funding for this project amounts to a little bit over a million dollars comprising of 157,000 from the Federal Highway Administration, FHWA.
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      and around $214,000 of local match contributed by the six-member jurisdictions.
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      This is a comprehensive funding structure, supports various regional components assessed on per capita basis, ensuring equitable distribution aligned with each jurisdiction's scope of work.
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      For Albemarle, the specific component amounts to $84,000 from which 33 are for public engagement.
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      while Charlottesville are 205, additionally 121 is estimated for project design as well as public engagement.
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      The solutions for this safety action plan are integrated across the four E's system approach.
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      Designing safer facilities for all users through engineering, building a culture of safety through education,
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      reinforcing safe travel behaviors through enforcement and saving lives through emergency response.
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      The process overview is divided into four steps.
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      The first step is identifying issues and opportunities.
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      During spring of this year, we completed this step through extensive public engagement.
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      We conducted a survey that allowed residents of the jurisdictions to share their specific transportation concerns.
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      Step two consisted of attending and gathering data from site visits in each of the jurisdictions, which we completed in September, as well as asking the public for feedback once more.
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      But I will talk about a little bit more in the next slides.
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      Step three will consist of development of targeted safety strategies based on identified priorities.
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      in collaboration with the jurisdictions.
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      These strategies will serve as the foundation for the final step, the development of the Comprehensive Safety Action Plan.
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      This plan will outline specific actions and measures to enhance transportation safety across the region.
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      In addition to the survey, we held 16 person public meetings, one in each jurisdiction.
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      and one virtual public meeting for all jurisdictions.
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      We organized 21 pop-up events.
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      We also conducted the site visits that I mentioned, which was one per jurisdiction where we observed and collected data from various locations based on the high injury network.
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      A little bit quick about the survey data, some key takeaways from the 300 plus responses that we had.
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      We learned that the driver behavior is a concern.
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      I have to mention that
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      during the attendance of the governance transportation conference in October of this year.
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      This goes in lines with pretty much every presentation that was included on the conference that for a lot of people that driver behavior is probably the main concern across the state.
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      I'm not going to go through the rest of the survey data, but it was included in the presentations for your reference.
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      I'm going to talk about the ongoing work that we have, so a little bit about the site visits which we conducted in September.
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      We observed multiple locations based on the crash data from the High Injury Network.
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      We took that data to identify potential solutions based on the findings and with that we launched round two of public engagement.
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      where we're asking the public for feedback once more.
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      This time we want to find out what are the types of projects the public thinks will help improve roadway safety in the community.
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      This feedback is gathered through a survey once again, which was active from November 7 to December 14.
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      We conducted pop-up events in each of the jurisdictions from November 11 to November 23.
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      to engage directly with the public.
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      We also had two virtual public meetings on December 11th with the goal to provide public with additional opportunities to provide feedback.
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      Additionally, we're coordinating the project design demo for the city of Charlottesville, where we'll gather focused feedback from the public on solutions, then implementation solutions,
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      implemented the solutions on two intersections within the city, which is Meade Avenue and Sturt Street.
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      And then we will gather feedback from them to see if the solutions are working or not.
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      This design demo will serve as an example for future types of implementation projects that will be available
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      funding.
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      I will talk about the next slides about the high injury network methodology that we defined in the collaboration with the jurisdictions.
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      So we took, we identified roadway segments within a jurisdiction with the highest number of fatal
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      or serious injury crashes.
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      Then we divided the roadway segments with a disproportionately high number of severe crashes.
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      Then the project team met with staff from each of the jurisdictions to discuss the potential threshold.
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      Schultz and Albemarle's crash data were evaluated independently from each other.
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      But just quick as a reference, 70% of the fatal and serious injury crashes occur on just 6% of the total roadway mileage.
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      The analysis breaks roadways into 0.1 mile segments and then we use the sliding window analysis to evaluate 0.5 mile segments to assess crash data.
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      This jurisdiction had a customized approach to identifying the high injury segments.
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      The criteria options for the
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      from the high injury network.
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      Just talk about briefly about what these mean.
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      The terms 2KA and 3KA refer to different criteria used to classify the severity of the crashes in the high injury network.
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      What they generally mean is 2KA includes K fatal and A severe injury that involve at least two or more crashes within a segment.
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      This represents a broader inclusive network.
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      where more crashes are counted.
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      The term 3KA includes K fatal, a severe injury crash, but limits the focus on three or more crashes within a segment.
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      This represents a more narrowly defined network focusing on areas with higher concentration of severe crashes.
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      The same approach goes for the two
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      or 3KAB crashes, but in the sense that B stands for minor injuries.
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      With this being said, 3K is a smaller subset of high injury areas.
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      indicating more precise location with very frequent and severe crashes, while 2KA is a broader set of location with slightly less stringent crash frequency criteria.
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      For this project, the Hanger network is used to guide and prioritize strategic safety recommendation.
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      I do want to mention that the 2KA and 3KA segments on the map, they do overlap.
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      before 3KA became 3KA, it was 2KA.
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      So it's the same roadway segments.
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      On some segments, there are more crashes.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:51:24
      Can I ask a quick question about that?
    • 00:51:27
      Sure.
    • 00:51:27
      Is the terminology 2KA and 3KA and 2KAB, et cetera, is that internal or is that like general transit lingo?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:51:39
      That's a general transit lingo.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:51:42
      OK, thank you.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:51:48
      In the next slides, we will look at some of the specific examples for County of Albemarle and the City of Charlottesville.
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      So 2KA in Albemarle County covers 7% of the roadway and accounts for 72% of the crashes.
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      And 3KA covers 3% of the roadway and accounts for 47% of the crashes.
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      and then the city of Charlottesville.
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      2KA covers 14% of the roads but accounts for 77% of the crashes while 3KAB covers 17% of the road but accounts for 84% of the crashes.
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      And what this statistic says is that the crashes within the county and the city are very concentrated
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      The next slide is going to show a brief overview of the plan development engagement we're using.
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      We have four segments of plan development in which we're collecting and analyzing data, conducting site visits, developing countermeasures and prioritizing strategies and projects, which will lead to the draft version of the comprehensive safety action plan.
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      These four segments are supported by three rounds of public engagement, where we ask feedback from various groups of people, including the public and the leadership from the jurisdictions.
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      With that, I'm going to end the presentation.
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      I'd be happy to try and answer some questions if there are any.
    • 00:53:31
      All right, questions?
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:53:34
      Yes, I'll jump in with, is it possible to get sent out just the map for Albemarle County that we can zoom in on to really locate where these trouble spots are?
    • 00:53:45
      Because I'm trying to do it from the packet and I don't seem to be able to get there.
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      So I'm glad to try again another day, if you have something that's a little higher resolution that we can look at.
    • 00:53:55
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:53:57
      Thank you.
    • 00:53:58
      I will follow up on that.
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      I don't have anything at the moment, but I can definitely inquire to get that.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:54:05
      I was going to ask something similar for the city.
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      I'm sure that Ben Chambers has looked, I know he's looked at this, but it'd be interesting to just take that map of the 3K and 3KAB or 2K, 3K, whichever ones we have in the city.
    • 00:54:24
      We could have that sort of a higher resolution would be, I think it'd be good
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      thing to use in talking to people about what we face in the city.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:54:40
      I'm sorry.
    • 00:54:44
      You mentioned this, but I don't know if this was about, I was a little confused when you said that something is in, like the categories overlap.
    • 00:54:55
      And is that why the percentage of crashes doesn't add up to 100?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:55:01
      Yeah, so basically think of it as 3KA is the segment that's identified in red.
    • 00:55:11
      I'll go back to the map.
    • 00:55:14
      So let's look at Albemarle County, for example.
    • 00:55:17
      So what is red used to be yellow.
    • 00:55:21
      So basically the 2KA covers everything
    • 00:55:26
      that's in yellow, but also is under what is in red before, as I said, before it became 3K8.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:55:35
      3K8 is a subset of 2K8, correct?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:55:38
      Exactly, yep.
    • 00:55:40
      That's the explanation.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:55:42
      It's like a more focused version.
    • 00:55:44
      And then can you talk about what you mentioned, a preliminary project on the corner of Mead and Stewart?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:55:55
      Yes, so that project is in correspondence with Mr. Bain Chambers from the city, where they provided additional funds for a project demo.
    • 00:56:08
      And we're in the starting stages of that project.
    • 00:56:13
      We just had our first meeting today to discuss three potential solutions that are going to be implemented on those intersections.
    • 00:56:26
      So basically, it's going to be done in three rounds of engagement.
    • 00:56:32
      We will ask the public which solution they would incline to choosing.
    • 00:56:40
      Then we will ask them again if the solution is working or not working.
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      And then the final round, we'll be following up with them to discuss in the future
    • 00:56:57
      future stages.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:56:59
      Do you, okay, thank you.
    • 00:57:01
      Do you have, are those three options in, do they exist yet or is that just the framework for this project?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:57:08
      That is just the framework right now, but they will be, I'm not sure when are they going to be done, but we're hoping to get them done like early January.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:57:20
      Okay, great.
    • 00:57:21
      I will, I will be able to provide firsthand feedback, because I can see that intersection from my back window.
    • 00:57:27
      Okay, thank you.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:57:30
      You're welcome.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:57:31
      And then after the city pilot is concluded, will you move on to the other jurisdictions with similar activity?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:57:39
      Well, that is a great question.
    • 00:57:42
      But the other jurisdictions, this demo project is based on the additional funding that the city of Charlottesville provided us.
    • 00:57:52
      So they specifically asked for this.
    • 00:57:57
      But with the comprehensive safety action plan, what the goal is, is to open doors for implementation funding in the future.
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      any of the other jurisdictions are more than welcome to use the same approach that we did with the city.
    • 00:58:15
      And also we can also apply for implementation funding for specific solutions within the jurisdiction based on what we have identified.
    • SPEAKER_17
    • 00:58:25
      Got it.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:58:32
      Any other questions from anyone?
    • 00:58:35
      Gorin, you mentioned one and I tried to write the stat down, but I think you were speaking specific to Albemarle, but did you say 6% of the fatalities are occurring on 6% of the road network?
    • 00:58:47
      Is that what I heard you say?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:58:49
      Yeah, it should have been 7% of the roads account for 72% of the crashes for the 2K criteria.
    • 00:59:00
      And then for the 3K criteria, 3% of the roads contribute to 47% of the crashes for Albemarle County.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:59:12
      Thank you.
    • 00:59:15
      All right, any other questions, comments?
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:59:19
      Actually, quickly on slide 12, just for chart interpretation, like concerns by travel mode, does that mean that, like for road and street design, like when you're in a
    • 00:59:48
      When I'm in a car, I'm concerned about road and street design.
    • 00:59:52
      17 people said road and street design are the biggest concern when they're in a car.
    • 00:59:59
      How do we interpret this chart?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 01:00:06
      So basically what the data we gathered is we asked the public or the survey fillers what kind of transportation mode they're using so based on their transportation mode they shared their concerns on the roads that they traveled.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:00:30
      So if I'm on a bike
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      I'm concerned about vehicles like this many people said they were concerned about vehicle speeds and this many people said road and street design From the perspective of a bicyclist then there's from the perspective of a car.
    • 01:00:45
      It's that's what's in blue Right.
    • SPEAKER_17
    • 01:00:48
      Yeah, exactly Okay, great.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:00:50
      Okay.
    • 01:00:51
      So my follow-up question is if I'm on a bicycle do I read this as 64%?
    • 01:00:55
      or 64 you know others Because that's where the yellow ends
    • 01:01:04
      or is it because I see numbers across the x-axis as if that's supposed to mean concerns and I'm hoping that.
    • 01:01:14
      Are they additive or?
    • 01:01:16
      Yeah, I mean vehicles 20 something if you're in a car and then is it 41 if you're on a walking?
    • 01:01:27
      I mean, are we adding them up in other words to go left to right to get to the right number?
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 01:01:32
      Yeah, exactly.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:01:34
      Okay, good.
    • 01:01:34
      All right, now I understand.
    • 01:01:36
      Thank you.
    • 01:01:37
      So the walking people, almost 70-some things of those are feeling threatened.
    • 01:01:42
      That makes very good sense.
    • 01:01:44
      Okay.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:01:46
      All right, any other questions or comments?
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:01:55
      Certainly gives a whole new perspective on the comments we hear at the board meetings about older neighborhoods and people walking in the street because there are no sidewalks and they want to get out and walk around and see their neighbors and it is very parallel with data here that
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      the risk to them is exponentially better and higher in a way than for those of us who live in the country and can't walk anyway because people are driving by at 55, not 25.
    • 01:02:21
      Anyway, thank you.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:02:23
      I'm so glad that both in Charlottesville and Albemarle results road and street design are
    • 01:02:32
      are in Charlottesville the highest and second highest in Albemarle, because that was something that I was looking for in the emphasis areas.
    • 01:02:43
      It listed a bunch of things but road design wasn't really one of them.
    • 01:02:47
      And, you know, when we say there's only so much we could do about behavior, to me that gets what we can do is
    • 01:02:56
      road and street design.
    • 01:02:57
      So I'm glad that that was the highest or second highest survey results because that is where we can exert control.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 01:03:07
      Yeah, I believe road and street design is like a sub category of the visibility emphasis area that I will mention another sub category for
    • 01:03:21
      like the impaired driving also does cover driving under the influence but also texting on the phone and talking.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:03:30
      That's good to know.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:03:34
      Is that all written down somewhere that I just missed it and reading the packet the different sub descriptions?
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      because it would not be intuitive for me to say distracted driving was under impaired.
    • 01:03:44
      I mean, it does result in impairment.
    • 01:03:46
      No question about it now that I hear it explained, but I hadn't made that connection before, so that's great.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 01:03:52
      Yeah, those are not in this presentation, but I can find them out.
    • 01:04:00
      OK, any other comments or questions?
    • 01:04:03
      I just have one before we move on to the next item.
    • 01:04:06
      I just wanted to say thank you to each and every one of you for support in this project.
    • 01:04:11
      It will not be doable without you.
    • 01:04:14
      So thank you.
    • 01:04:15
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:04:17
      Thank you for the presentation.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:04:21
      And we will have some, obviously there'll be some follow up coming out.
    • 01:04:24
      The next item, item B under number five, the 5310 DRPT grant.
    • 01:04:29
      And Lucinda is providing an update here.
    • 01:04:33
      Actually, this is marked as an action item.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 01:04:36
      Yes.
    • 01:04:39
      This is about the mobility management grant that TJPDC has.
    • 01:04:43
      It's the PATH program and we have to apply every year to DRPT to continue funding for the program.
    • 01:04:52
      We also have to notify the Metropolitan Planning Organization that we are applying for the 5310 funds.
    • 01:05:00
      So the first letter is the notification to the policy board that we are applying for the funds.
    • 01:05:07
      The second letter is a letter of support for the grant application to the Department of Rail and Public Transportation.
    • 01:05:17
      We're asking that you make a motion to support the grant application and sign the letter.
    • 01:05:24
      The mobility management program,
    • 01:05:27
      I'm sure you all have heard me speak about it in the past, but it helps support older adults and people with disabilities and getting rides when they can't drive.
    • 01:05:37
      And it covers all of region 10, including the MPO area.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:05:41
      I move adoption of the resolution and the letter.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:05:47
      Is there a second?
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:05:53
      Second.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:05:54
      OK, if all the voting numbers will unmute.
    • 01:05:57
      And all in favor, please say aye.
    • 01:06:00
      Aye.
    • 01:06:00
      Aye.
    • 01:06:01
      All right, thank you.
    • 01:06:05
      Thank you.
    • 01:06:08
      And then we have an item C, dates and meeting schedule.
    • 01:06:11
      So the next meeting will be in person February 19th, 4 to 6.
    • 01:06:17
      Christine or Sarah, anything in addition there we need to say?
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 01:06:22
      Sorry, Ned, did you say February 19th?
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:06:24
      That's what's written on the agenda.
    • 01:06:28
      That seems early.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 01:06:29
      I am on the agenda.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:06:34
      Well, then the agenda I was given was correct.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 01:06:38
      February 26, four to six o'clock.
    • 01:06:40
      We'll make sure you have the right calendar hold.
    • 01:06:42
      And then in that February, in the February meeting, we will bring you a calendar of all meetings for the whole year so that you have those and make sure that their calendar holds sent out for you as well.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:06:53
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:06:54
      February 26th.
    • 01:06:58
      Yeah, that's the normal 4th Wednesday about.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:07:03
      And Christine, will you be able to put calendar things onto our calendars?
    • 01:07:07
      Yes, we use.
    • 01:07:08
      OK, thank you as Yep, so you can just accept them.
    • 01:07:12
      Thank you, that's very helpful.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:07:15
      All right, very good.
    • 01:07:16
      The next item, item six, VDOT update on projects.
    • 01:07:19
      Looks like we got Chuck and Sandy with us today.
    • 01:07:21
      We're going to start with the NPO smart scale projects.
    • 01:07:24
      Chuck, are you leading us on for Sandy?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:07:26
      Yeah, I can do it real quick.
    • 01:07:28
      We're basically wrapping up this round of smart scale.
    • 01:07:31
      We're finishing scoring.
    • 01:07:35
      and compiling the scores and they will be presented at the CTB meeting in January once the rankings are identified after the score is complete.
    • 01:07:48
      So at that point we will know how our projects fared in the rankings for the district-wide and the high priority program.
    • 01:07:57
      That's all I got.
    • 01:07:58
      Any questions?
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:08:01
      And then remind me once you know that then you reach out to the staff in each jurisdiction.
    • 01:08:05
      Is that how it works?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:08:06
      Yes, we have to coordinate with the staff and the CTB on which projects in our district we want to get funded from the rankings.
    • 01:08:17
      sometimes they shift around like last round.
    • 01:08:19
      I think they substituted a district avenue for the Peter Jefferson Parkway intersection.
    • 01:08:25
      Cause that was a higher priority in this region than the other project.
    • 01:08:29
      So they switched those rounds.
    • 01:08:30
      So we'll, we coordinate those after the rankings come out.
    • 01:08:35
      Gotcha.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:08:36
      And then each governing board will need to affirm that they're still interested after that shift happens.
    • 01:08:43
      In other words, staff will bring it to
    • 01:08:46
      Council and board for.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:08:48
      I guess, I mean, the way our process works is, is we basically will coordinate that with our CTB member and it'll be adopted into the six year plan.
    • 01:09:01
      During the spring six year plan development process.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:09:05
      Yeah, I think, I think, and the key thing is that the, that every local board has already
    • 01:09:11
      provided support for these projects.
    • 01:09:13
      When it comes to the scoring and awarding these projects funding, it is straight up to the CTB to either take it as scored or they can change the recommendations based on the board.
    • 01:09:25
      So it doesn't have to go back to the locality pertaining to whether or not they agree with it or not.
    • 01:09:31
      We may partner with you all if there's something that we feel is strange like we did last time, which we would be transparent on that.
    • 01:09:39
      But that's not something that has to happen.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:09:42
      Got it.
    • 01:09:43
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:09:47
      Any other questions on the smart scale update?
    • 01:09:52
      And then we have the stars and pipeline studies updates there.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:09:56
      Yes, we've had the two-star study kickoff meetings, well three-star study kickoff meetings.
    • 01:10:03
      The one in the city at Main Street, Water Street, Ridge Street intersection, and then the other one is on the 29 corridor
    • 01:10:13
      from Barracks Road all the way out to Woodbrook, which is two projects, one's in the city, county, one's from Barracks Road to Hydraulic, the other one's from Hydraulic to Woodbrook, but includes the interchange at 250 Bypass.
    • 01:10:28
      So those are the three star studies.
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      and we had the kickoff meetings.
    • 01:10:33
      We're reviewing the framework document and that'll be sent around for everybody's signature.
    • 01:10:39
      And then we'll implement this study at that point.
    • 01:10:45
      Pipeline, we've got a couple of locations in the region that we're looking at.
    • 01:10:51
      The CTB, we met with the CTB member on those and we're waiting on the CTB to vote on those and once they vote we will and get approval we will start those studies.
    • 01:11:03
      The two we're looking at are the 118 Interchange and the Fifth Street Interchange all the way up to
    • 01:11:14
      Fifth Street Station Parkway.
    • 01:11:17
      Those are the two studies we're looking at in this region.
    • 01:11:22
      Any questions?
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:11:29
      The 118 intersection, is that just about the intersection with 29 or is it rehashing what we've been looking at for the last many years?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:11:39
      Not to look at Fontaine necessarily.
    • 01:11:41
      It's going to look at the interchange.
    • 01:11:43
      It's going to include the park and ride lot.
    • 01:11:49
      We're going to go through the Fontaine interchange, but we're not necessarily looking at the Fontaine interchange as part of it.
    • 01:11:55
      If there's something that comes out of the 118 study that affects the Fontaine interchange, we need to make sure we're addressing that.
    • 01:12:06
      Right.
    • 01:12:07
      There could be a solution that will have a dramatic effect on Fontaine.
    • 01:12:12
      So we need to make sure that's addressed.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:12:19
      All right.
    • 01:12:19
      Any other questions?
    • 01:12:24
      All right.
    • 01:12:24
      Thank you, Chuck.
    • 01:12:28
      This brings us to item seven, our round table updates.
    • 01:12:31
      So I'll start moving around the
    • 01:12:34
      around the screen.
    • 01:12:36
      Let's see, Brian.
    • 01:12:38
      Lee, Mr. Condor, any updates from CTAP?
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:12:42
      No, nothing new.
    • 01:12:48
      We met when we just got heard the presentations on safe streets for all.
    • 01:12:55
      And yeah, that was pretty much about it.
    • 01:12:58
      So we all individually participated in
    • 01:13:03
      the survey.
    • 01:13:04
      So yeah, that's about it.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:13:07
      Very good.
    • 01:13:08
      Thank you, sir.
    • 01:13:10
      Mr. Huber, DRPT.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:13:13
      Yeah, I'll try and keep it brief.
    • 01:13:15
      Nothing really new since the technical committee update.
    • 01:13:19
      As many of you know, we have our new director, Tiffany Robinson.
    • 01:13:23
      She gave her first presentation to the CTP recently.
    • 01:13:26
      You can go find that presentation on their website.
    • 01:13:31
      We already talked about 5210, but the pre-application webinar is available online for your review as well through our website.
    • 01:13:40
      Our grant application cycle is open from December 1 until February 1st, or sorry, through, oh yeah, February 1st.
    • 01:13:51
      So reach out to us if you have any comments, questions, or concerns on that, as well as our RAIL application cycle.
    • 01:13:58
      And we can reach out to that team on your behalf as well if you're interested on any RAIL applications.
    • 01:14:05
      All 5310 agencies need to submit a letter of intent no later than the end of the year.
    • 01:14:12
      So I heard about that earlier.
    • 01:14:15
      And if the NENPOs need to extend their fiscal year 24-53-03 contract, let us know because they all expire at the end of the year.
    • 01:14:25
      So we can do that if you have any other grants you want to apply for or continue reimbursement requests.
    • 01:14:32
      and then I guess on a positive light, the state of Virginia received three Chrissy grants.
    • 01:14:39
      That's the Consolidated Rail Infrastructure grant.
    • 01:14:42
      And one of those is also related to Charlottesville.
    • 01:14:45
      And that is the, where is it here?
    • 01:14:50
      Buckingham branch tie replacement program.
    • 01:14:54
      And that was for $6 million, which is part of the Commonwealth quarter, which is good news.
    • 01:15:00
      It's all for me.
    • 01:15:01
      Very good.
    • 01:15:02
      Thank you, sir.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:15:03
      Could you please explain, sorry to interrupt, could you please explain that last piece again about the railroad?
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:15:08
      Yeah, so the DRPT sponsored, we had, we won two sponsored applications and then VTRA won another application.
    • 01:15:20
      But the Buckingham Branch Railroad, which is the second tier railroad, you know, runs between Charlottesville and kind of arcs over up and down into kind of that
    • 01:15:32
      the main corridor that Amtrak currently takes between Richmond and DC.
    • 01:15:38
      And so we helped develop a grant to replace track ties and resurface 83 miles of track along that branch.
    • 01:15:49
      And that's part of the Commonwealth Corridor prerequisite for Corridor ID, FRAS program.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:15:58
      What is that?
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:16:00
      That's where they, it's their program to identify future passenger rail service.
    • 01:16:04
      And that's something our team has been working on for a while in developing, and that's the East-West rail connection.
    • 01:16:10
      And so this is one of the many phases in developing the corridor to the next, you know, one of the many steps towards potential passenger rail service.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:16:19
      Cool.
    • 01:16:20
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:16:22
      So Mitch, does that run through Dillwyn and up toward Richmond or is it along the current track between Richmond and Charlottesville?
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:16:32
      It's the existing rail.
    • 01:16:34
      I'm not sure these are small cities, but it's already there.
    • 01:16:37
      It's already used by freight.
    • 01:16:39
      And so we're helping to pay to apply for grants to upgrade it for potential future passenger service.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:16:47
      Okay.
    • 01:16:47
      And are the pull-offs,
    • 01:16:50
      Also part of that, or is it strictly, you said it's strictly tie replacement right now?
    • SPEAKER_17
    • 01:16:55
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:16:55
      As opposed to the pull off.
    • 01:16:56
      Okay.
    • SPEAKER_17
    • 01:16:57
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:16:57
      Very good.
    • 01:16:59
      Well, Burkina branch is a great partner, so we got to keep them going.
    • 01:17:02
      That's for sure.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:17:06
      All right.
    • 01:17:06
      Thank you, Mr. Espy.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:17:10
      Good evening, everyone.
    • 01:17:11
      On John's side, last week at the most recent Regional Transit Partnership meeting, we presented the results of the Rural Transit Needs Assessment Study and the Microtransit Feasibility Study.
    • 01:17:25
      We're still working on our bus electric vehicle implementation study.
    • 01:17:28
      Hopefully that will be submitted by the end of the year.
    • 01:17:30
      for the end of this calendar year.
    • 01:17:31
      Other than that, we're working closely with TJPDC and PATH on their initiatives and fully support what they're doing and their applications.
    • 01:17:42
      We too have applications coming up in February 1 for DRBT, various capital things.
    • 01:17:49
      So yeah, things are good.
    • 01:17:51
      Happy holidays, everyone.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:17:54
      Thank you, sir.
    • 01:17:56
      Let's see.
    • 01:17:58
      Ms.
    • 01:17:58
      Monteith, any updates from you?
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:18:03
      Hello, everybody.
    • 01:18:04
      No, I actually don't have any updates.
    • 01:18:07
      Usually I would update in terms of UTS, the University Transit Service, but we don't have any current initiatives to report on.
    • 01:18:16
      But I also wish everybody a happy holiday.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:18:20
      Thank you.
    • 01:18:22
      And Jessica, you got to hold on just a second.
    • 01:18:24
      If you update I'm going to kill my mic and my audio here.
    • 01:18:28
      So we don't have echoes.
    • 01:18:31
      Go ahead.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:18:34
      Okay, so my only update is that the MR County Board of Supervisors can expect to see a resolution of support on your January 15 agenda to support the Rivanna River Bridge raise application.
    • 01:18:47
      That's all.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:18:50
      Very good.
    • 01:18:51
      Thank you.
    • 01:18:52
      And we'll go to Sean and Stacy from VDOT.
    • 01:18:56
      Any updates you want to provide?
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:19:00
      Yeah, I'll kind of give you all updates.
    • 01:19:02
      The hydraulic bundle, we're pretty much substantially complete on most of those elements.
    • 01:19:09
      They're continuing to construct the pedestrian bridge, and we're hoping that'll be finished sometime in the fall of next year, if not sooner, depending on how construction goes this winter.
    • 01:19:18
      and through the spring.
    • 01:19:19
      So their project is moving along fairly well.
    • 01:19:22
      The other project that is in construction, which in the construction phase has been advertised, but you all haven't seen lots of moving yet is that Albemarle bundle number two.
    • 01:19:30
      You'll probably see the first movement there for the 240-250 roundabout.
    • 01:19:36
      They plan to start right away acquisitions in mid-January and start contacting landowners in mid to late February.
    • 01:19:45
      but you should start to see some utility relocations beginning of the year through March with construction starting probably sometime in March or April.
    • 01:19:55
      That will be the first part of that bundle and we're hoping to finish all of the six elements by the fall or winter of 2027.
    • 01:20:01
      Next big thing that we've got coming up is the procurement for our next bundle.
    • 01:20:08
      That bundle will include the Fontaine interchange,
    • 01:20:11
      will also include the city's Fontaine streetscape and will include the district avenue roundabout.
    • 01:20:19
      So that will be the next major project that we've got going out for design build.
    • 01:20:26
      We're hoping to have a public hearing sometime in March or April.
    • 01:20:30
      And the goal would be for that project to be awarded by the CTB by this time next year of 2025.
    • 01:20:37
      So
    • 01:20:39
      as we keep queuing these things up.
    • 01:20:41
      And the goal would be for this round of SmartScale, we'll develop another set of bundle of projects to go through the same procurement.
    • 01:20:48
      So the goal is for us to keep these things churning out one after another.
    • 01:20:51
      So that is the update I've got now.
    • 01:20:53
      Pass it over to Stacey for any other additional information.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:20:58
      No updates from me this time.
    • 01:21:01
      Happy holidays.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:21:04
      Thank you much.
    • 01:21:04
      Did I miss anybody going around the screen there?
    • 01:21:09
      All right.
    • 01:21:10
      Well, that brings us to additional matters from the public.
    • 01:21:13
      Are there any additional comments from the public?
    • 01:21:17
      I don't see any public on.
    • 01:21:20
      We will close matters from the public.
    • 01:21:22
      And that brings us to the end.
    • 01:21:24
      So as others have mentioned, I wish everybody happy holidays and a happy new year.
    • 01:21:29
      and selfishly, this concludes my meeting obligations for the month.
    • 01:21:34
      This is the last one, so the rest of the month is kind of clear for me.
    • 01:21:38
      Hope the same for, well, some of you have got a lot of work to do, I would imagine.
    • 01:21:43
      But wish everybody a joyful time over the next couple of weeks and into the new year and look forward to seeing everybody in 2025.
    • 01:21:51
      So with that and with no objection, we will adjourn.
    • 01:21:54
      Thank you.
    • 01:21:55
      Have safe and healthy.
    • 01:21:56
      Thank you all.
    • 01:21:57
      Thank you.