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Planning District Commission Meeting   3/7/2024

Attachments
  • 00 Full Commission Packet 2024-03-07.pdf
  • 3a VATI Broadband Handout for Commissioners March 7. 2024.pdf
  • 3b ii FY25 Rural Work Program.pdf
  • 3b i Rural Work Program Handout.pdf
  • 3d ii Final_Report_Transit Gov Study_20240213.pdf
  • 3d i Transit Gov Study Presentation Handout.pdf
  • 4a TJPDC Draft Minutes 2.8.24.pdf
  • 4b i Financial Dashboard Jan FY24.pdf
  • 4b ii FY24 Jan Consolidated P&L.pdf
  • 4b iii FY24 Jan Balance Sheet.pdf
  • 4b iv Accrued Revenue Jan FY24.pdf
  • 5a i FY21 Re-Issued Audit Memo.pdf
  • 5a ii Thomas Jefferson Planning District Commission-Reissue.pdf
  • 5b FY24 TJPDC Corporation Appointments - Amended.pdf
  • 6a i FY24 Amended Budget Memo.pdf
  • 6a i FY24 Amended Budget Packet.pdf
  • 6a ii FY24 Draft Amended Operating Budget- Totals.pdf
  • 6a iii FY24 Amended Budget Resolution.pdf
  • 6a iii FY24 Draft Amended Operating Budget- Revenues.pdf
  • 6a iv FY24 Draft Amended Operating Budget - Per Capita Local Contributions.pdf
  • 7a ED Report March 2024.pdf
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
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      All right, well now I will call the Tom Scarpa says Planning District Commission to order for Thursday, March 7, 2024, 7 p.m. leading.
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      And Ruth, would you mind doing a roll call?
    • SPEAKER_07
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      Supervisor Galloway?
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
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      Present.
    • SPEAKER_07
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      Supervisor Pruitt?
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
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      Present.
    • SPEAKER_07
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      Supervisor O'Brien?
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      Present.
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      Mr. Smith?
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Here.
    • SPEAKER_07
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      Supervisor Goolsby?
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      Mr. Higgins?
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Present.
    • SPEAKER_07
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      Supervisor Barlow, Supervisor Woodward, Supervisor Reed, Supervisor Rutherford, Commissioner D'Oronzio, Councilor Payne.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
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      Very good.
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      And we have Mr. Woodward on the line.
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      So we will need to take action to allow him to participate electronically.
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      Mr. Woodward, can you hear me OK?
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      Can you hear me now?
    • 00:01:12
      Yes, sir.
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      Can you please repeat your location and your reason for participating electronically?
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
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      Yes, I'm here in Louisa and I had a medical procedure this morning on my eye.
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      and just wasn't able to make it to Charlottesville.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
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      Thank you, sir.
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      And would a fellow commissioner like to make a motion to allow Mr. Woodward to participate electronically?
    • 00:01:47
      I second.
    • 00:01:48
      All right.
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      The motion has been made and seconded.
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      All in favor, please say aye.
    • 00:01:53
      Aye.
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      Opposed?
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      Abstentions?
    • 00:01:56
      Aye.
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      Mr. Woodward, you are in the meeting and free to participate.
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      Thank you, sir.
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
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      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_08
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      There's someone else.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      There's another?
    • 00:02:06
      Yeah.
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      Oh, Sean's trying to get it.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
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      Make sure Sean's in there.
    • 00:02:18
      All right, we will move to number 2A, comments by the public.
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      Is there anyone here that wishes to hear the public comment?
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      Anyone online who wishes to hear the public comment?
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      Sean, I just called for public comment.
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      All right.
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      And we will move to item number three and to our first presentation this evening, the 2022 Virginia Adult Communication Initiative update.
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      And Ms. Allshouse is with us to do that.
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      Good evening.
    • SPEAKER_06
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      Good evening, everyone.
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      My name is Lori Allshouse.
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      I'm the program director for the VATI program, which is our broadband project that's being administered by TJPDC.
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      Just, I like this picture because this actually shows how broad this super regional project is.
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      You can see that it's 13 counties, which includes the counties associated with TJPDC and seven additional counties throughout central Virginia.
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      It's a 36 month project and we are halfway through.
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      This is a by the numbers page.
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      I used to be a budget director, as Ned knows, so I do like numbers.
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      It's a $288 million project.
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      $79 million comes from the state of Virginia through DHCD and $209 million, most of the project is provided by match from utility partners and counties.
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      Counties is about $32 million of that and the remainder is utility partners.
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      Of that large project, 110 comes through TJPDC.
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      We don't process the utility partners funding through TJPDC, but we do bring the state and the county money through here.
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      We look at all the invoices, we make sure all the expenditures that occurred, and then we pass the funding on through to Firefly.
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      Again, I mentioned it's a three-year project, and our goal is 36,000 passings.
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      So what that means is the fiber will pass 36,000
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      Residence in businesses throughout the region and people can choose to connect to the fiber or not.
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      So this is a, we did this report to you every six months.
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      So I'm going to give you some highlights of the last six months.
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      The first thing that we do, well not the first thing, but one of the major things that we do is keep the communications going throughout the project with all the county partners and utilities.
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      Every quarter we have a stakeholders meeting that anyone can attend where the utility partners all share what's going on in the region, what work is being done, people can ask questions, so it's a nice way for all of us to hear everything at the same time.
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      Our next one is coming up on March 14th.
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      And you can see the utility partners names along the bottom of the slide.
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      The other thing that we do is we provide progress through the state.
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      We collect data on milestones that are completed.
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      I'm not going to read all the numbers to you here, but you can see that there's almost 8,000 in passings so far in the project.
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      We update this every month and you can also see that it's about 97 million has already been expended on the project.
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      I mentioned earlier that we do the financial management.
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      So far we've reviewed and verified and submitted actually 11 now remittance requests to the state and to several counties.
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      As of March 1st, you can see this is the number that passed through TJPDC.
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      You can see that we processed $23 million since the project began.
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      And we also received money from the state to administer the project.
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      So there's no cost to the counties for this work.
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      One of our favorite things to do is to go out into the community and see the work.
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      So what I'm going to do now is share with you some slides of some of the site visits that we've done over the last six months.
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      That's not going to be a lot of slides.
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      One slide per month.
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      It's like someone's vacation slideshow, right?
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      September 27th, we actually saw some Make Ready work in Madison County.
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      Make Ready is where they get the poles ready to add fiber to the electrical poles.
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      What was cool about this site visit was you could look both ways in this road and you could see the work going as far as eyes could see at the same time.
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      It was really exciting to see them changing out poles from the smaller poles to the larger ones to allow the fiber to be attached.
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      The other part that I found really interesting was you can tell that that's a farmer's field and they waited until the farmer harvested his crop before they brought all the equipment in.
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      You might have been hearing about railroad crossings and how important this is for the project.
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      There were some delays because of permitting on the railroad crossings.
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      On October 21st, there was actually, it was a Saturday, there was actually seven crossings that occurred on that same day.
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      And what was neat about this was, you know, we got up at the crack of dawn and we went out and there was a lot of time that passed because they had to do a lot of measurements.
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      They had to get back and forth with connecting with where all the trains are.
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      working with the folks in the field.
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      And then they had a 10 minute window.
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      So there was a moment that then the fiber had happened.
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      So it felt like a lot of waiting around.
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      They weren't waiting, but we were waiting.
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      And then in 10 minutes they crossed the railroad crossing before a train came.
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      The other neat thing about this is that all that work happened and all those folks were there and all that effort and it connected 12 houses.
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      So really what this shows is how important it is to get to everyone in the field and that they have to get over the tracks even if there's a few houses on the other side.
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      Here's a site visit we made to Louisa County and this is a communication hut so they don't look like much but they're really important to the project.
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      They hold all the equipment for the fiber and what was really cool about this one was this showed the partnership between Louisa County and Firefly.
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      This is on Louisa County's property and it was just a nice way that they work together to ensure that this hut could be put in place and it's going to serve a great number of the people in Louisa County.
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      More railroad crossings back to Albemarle County.
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      I think there was several in Albemarle County.
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      This one we went down to see after it was completed.
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      This one was just a couple railroad crossings that literally went to each one to like one residence.
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      So you can see this is off of 29 down in southern Albemarle and you can see the fiber on the poles.
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      And then we went back to Madison County.
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      You probably recognize this slide on the left.
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      This will make ready work.
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      We went back to see the fiber installed.
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      You can see it as the bottom line of fiber.
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      They have to have spacing between from the electrical lines and you can see the fiber growing across the loose poles.
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      And then just finally, last month, I got to go see an actual home installation.
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      And this was in Louisa County near the Goochland County line.
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      And basically this was watching the actual homeowner get the internet into their house that they haven't had before.
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      Really neat to see how they worked with the homeowners, how the guy went underneath the crawl space to make sure the fiber came up in the right spot in the house.
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      And then they tested it at the end to make sure that the speed was the correct amount.
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      Really nice visit, really friendly folks and really happy people.
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      So that was really neat to see.
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      So that concludes what I have to say about the Body 22 grant.
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      We are applying, as you all know, for a 24 grant to supplement this grant.
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      We applied in December.
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      The grant's going to provide for some additional newly unserved areas included in our current project.
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      This is a request of almost $16 million from the state to support a $53.6 million project.
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      You can see a lot of match money again in this.
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      It has 11 of our 13 counties and we expect to hear hopefully a positive result in the summer on that.
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      So thank you so much for your time.
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      Any questions or anything?
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      Otherwise, I'll move along.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Any questions?
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
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      Thank you.
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      That will take us to item 3B, Shackelford.
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      It's here for our draft of the 25th Rural Transportation Work Program.
    • Sandy ShackelfordStaff Member
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      Yes, thank you.
    • 00:11:34
      Hello.
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      Thank you, Mr.
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      Chair, members of the commission.
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      Tonight, I just want to give you all a little bit of background on the Rural Work Program.
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      This is probably we should have inserted the word transportation in here somewhere, but we're talking about transportation programming for the rural areas.
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      This is one of the annual work programs that the PDC receives funding for.
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      So most of you are probably aware that we have a metropolitan planning organization that receives funding for
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      I'm going to go ahead and
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      what it receives that is dedicated through its state planning and research funding to support planning in the rural areas.
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      So we have an annual budget of $72,500.
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      80% of that is funded through federal funding that VDOT allocates to each of the PDCs.
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      And then 20% of that comes from local match, which is part of the per capita that the PDC receives from each of the localities.
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      Every PDC in the state, regardless of size, receives the same amount of funding for the Rural Work Program.
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      One of the things that is a little bit different about the Rural Work Program compared to the money that is allocated to the urban program is that we have to use the funds within the year that it's allocated.
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      Unused funds do not roll over.
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      Next slide, please.
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      So I just want to share with you what this money has been used for in this current fiscal year that hasn't quite wrapped up.
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      We had a couple of big initiatives that were underway.
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      First of all, we wanted to make sure that the rural localities were represented when we were talking about what a regional transit governance scenario should look like.
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      So we use funding from the Rural Work Program to support collaboration with our rural localities.
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      as part of the development of the transit governance study that you'll hear a little bit more about later today.
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      I think you are all mostly aware that the TJPDC also applied for and was awarded a Safe Streets and Roads for All discretionary grant from the USDOT.
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      And so to make sure that we were leveraging those federal funds to as great of an extent as possible, we also program support for TJPDC staff to work on the program through both the rural work program and the MPO's work program.
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      So we were able to get the most bang for our buck from the federal funds that we applied for.
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      We are also currently undergoing a strategic plan for our rideshare program, which is a requirement.
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      And so again, because we wanted to leverage the additional funding we got through our technical assistance grant, we allocated staff
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      staff of resources and time through both our rural and urban work programs.
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      And then this also gives our staff the capacity to participate on some of these statewide or local transportation initiatives like pipeline studies that are undertaken in collaboration with VDOT.
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      We worked with Nelson County on the 151 corridor study using the rural work program.
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      And we also have historically used this to support our rural localities with smart scale applications upon request.
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      Next slide.
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      So next year, the Rural Work Program is going to look largely the same.
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      And the big reason for that is because the Comprehensive Safety Action Plan was a two-year grant.
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      So we're allocating $30,000 both last year and this upcoming, we're recommending that this upcoming fiscal year to continue and complete our work on the Comprehensive Safety Action Plan and hopefully be able to support
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      applications for implementation projects as part of that.
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      The other line items here are standard line items that we typically anticipate that we're going to have to spend and don't change much year from year.
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      This includes the administrative expenses associated with staffing and coordinating meetings, completing invoicing and reporting requirements, as well as general information sharing, which also includes things like meeting attendance at state and regional
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      and local meetings and then the program activities again typically we have line item allocations for more general local and state technical assistance and great applications and then continuing to ensure that the rural localities are informed, aware and connected to any of the
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      Regional efforts around transit planning, travel demand management, and bicycle and pedestrian initiatives.
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      And so this is what we are proposing for the FY 25 work program.
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      This will go to the Rural Technical Advisory Committee at their meeting later this month for them to review.
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      And then it will come back to you all next month with a resolution to hopefully approve the program as presented.
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      But with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions you have.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:16:42
      Thank you.
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      One of the projects in the next page here, I wanted to see where the lion must have been when they were in the police call box.
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      It's all in date's honor in the future.
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      They reviewed it on their phone in April 2024.
    • Sandy ShackelfordStaff Member
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      Oh yeah, that was drafted because we're anticipating those dates.
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      I appreciate that.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:17:11
      Thank you.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
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      McSally, to item number 3C, the Comprehensive Economic Development or SEDS update.
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      Ruth, do you have anything on that?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:17:29
      I do.
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      So as you may or may not recall, we received a SEDS grant from the EPA last year.
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      And we jointly procured our consultant for the project of the Rapid Land and Bethannic Regional Commission to have a process that would be in lockstep and also contain a super regional strategies chapter.
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      That's it for receiving the EDA designation as an economic development district.
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      One advantage of having that designation is it would give us for consideration when applying for funds, not just the Planning District Commission, but many levels of municipalities and other organizations.
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      And that includes funding not just from the EPA, but for transportation, labor and health projects and other areas.
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      The Planning District Commission could have a future role in
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      what happens with the SEDS plan, the five-year plan, there's requirements to report annually and so it could be the Commission goes out and seeks input on how those goals are being met and seeking feedback.
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      To date, our project has done a lot of fact-finding, collecting existing data on the
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      economy, the demographics of the area, workforce, housing, and then also interviewing stakeholders, doing focus groups.
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      We conducted a business survey in the fall.
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      The timeline you see here for the strategy development should say November through February.
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      We actually wrapped up the stakeholder engagement in late February, but we are still on track to have the
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      Draught Strategic Plan finalized in March.
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      Here's an example of some data that was produced as a part of the data collection early in the project.
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      This shows different employment sectors and whether they are growing in our area or not, and how they compare to the national average and just like what percentage
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      of the total jobs in that area that represents.
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      So as you can see, accommodation and food services and arts, entertainment and recreation have both had decrease in jobs over the last several years, but they are on, the number of jobs is on target with the national average.
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      Whereas we have for professional, scientific and technical services and healthcare and social assistance,
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      We have an increase in jobs, but we're below the national average.
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      And so these can be categorized as maturing, leading, flagging, or emerging, depending on whether the change is positive or negative.
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      And if our comparison to the national average, that the location is on the vote or above one or below one.
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      We also conducted, well, consultants conducted a
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      Resilience and Vulnerability Assessment using the University of Missouri Community Resilience Assessment Tool, which looks at a lot of factors specific to social economic infrastructure and environmental resilience and vulnerability.
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      So it's like, you know, do people live close to a grocery store or not?
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      Are there doctors, primary care physicians in the area?
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      DeNillo-Postu, an emergency room, a lot of different aspects of what are risks and what allows the economy to rebound.
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      And so, as you can see, all of the jurisdictions in the TJPDC regions work pretty well with high resilience and low vulnerability, except in the infrastructure and social sectors.
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      And so there's certainly some work to be done in those areas.
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      We also sought input from our stakeholders during onsite visits and got their feedback on a variety of things that became very clear as things to potentially focus on from the fact finding that happened earlier in the plan.
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      And this, it's kind of hard to tell the difference between the orange and yellow here, but this high, moderate, low scoring was vetted by our stakeholder group, which is made up of economic developers and businesses in the area.
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      And this is actually not the final version.
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      There were a couple of modifications that they made where they felt very strongly that
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      You know, it shows that there's a low perceived need for growth, but actually we feel like it's moderate or vice versa.
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      Through this project, we identified goals.
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      And the major goals are focusing on supporting our existing industries and emerging markets.
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      And then our stakeholders felt very strongly about
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      including something about cross-sector collaboration at the major opportunities such as workforce, keeping people in the community, and preparing them for jobs here.
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      And also, placemaking is a very key component to several of its industry success, including tourism.
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      There's been a lot of talk about tourism among our stakeholders.
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      And then also infrastructure with key concerns.
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      about bringing in businesses and keeping existing businesses in the area, not losing them to other jurisdictions.
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      We've also engaged heavily, not only with our stakeholders, but also with the Virginia Region 9.
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      The council covers both the TJPDC area and the RRRC area, and their strategy
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      align with a lot of the sectors that have been identified through our process.
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      Going forward, this is a five-year plan.
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      And the PDC is not necessarily going to be able to advance a lot of these strategies.
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      We absolutely need partners to come in and help with that.
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      So we're going to have nonprofits and CVPED and the Chamber of Commerce and all of these other organizations helping
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      Move these strategies forward.
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      It's going to be a team effort.
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      So we finished refining the strategies.
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      We're in the process of finalizing the plan draft, and that will be sent out to you all and to our stakeholders for review.
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      And we'll also start the 30-day public comment period at the same time.
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      So that will happen end of March, early April.
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      We're looking at bringing the final plan with all the revisions back to you all in May at the May machine meeting for adoption.
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      And then we'll move on to the implementation.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:25:52
      What questions do you all have?
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 00:25:57
      Are we supposed to bring our comments to the next meeting?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:26:01
      You can email me.
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      Or you can bring them into eating, but I would love if you just can help me.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:26:08
      Can you go back to the graphs with the low vulnerability?
    • 00:26:14
      Yes.
    • 00:26:14
      There you said infrastructure is where we're not scoring well.
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      I still have to get my brain rested on this.
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      So low resilience, low vulnerability.
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      So the further you skew from the center line, the worse you are?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:26:28
      Yeah, so you want to have high resilience.
    • 00:26:32
      And yeah, so high vulnerability would be good if we were up here in the upper left quadrant, but this lower right quadrant, we have low vulnerability.
    • 00:26:44
      So there aren't a lot of risks, but if something were to happen, it could be hard to bounce back.
    • 00:26:54
      And it's specific to infrastructure and it's
    • 00:26:57
      I mean, we have what city of Charlottesville is in the lower right, not the lower left.
    • 00:27:04
      And then the national index is in the lower right, that black.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:27:13
      And infrastructure is defined as what?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:27:18
      Roads, houses, utilities, a number of things.
    • 00:27:24
      Yeah, it's not just Black Lives Matter.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:27:35
      That is a major factor in your gap.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:27:50
      If you all are curious about this, I'd be happy to share the
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:27:54
      That will be included in the draft plan.
    • 00:28:00
      It's just not going to be ready until mid-March or the week of March.
    • 00:28:04
      So we'll send that out and it's full.
    • 00:28:08
      We can send out that in advance if you would like to see it later.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:28:13
      And then the next slide, the stakeholder input.
    • 00:28:17
      So I'm just trying to understand.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:28:19
      So I'll pick on that one.
    • 00:28:22
      Oh, infrastructure availability.
    • 00:28:24
      Low perceived need or opportunity for growth.
    • 00:28:27
      So the stakeholder said that infrastructure was not an issue.
    • 00:28:34
      There's no need and there's really no opportunity for growth.
    • 00:28:45
      And that's interesting in being in this transportation, infrastructure is the thing we get complaints about on everything.
    • 00:28:52
      So just the economic development staff?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:29:03
      No, with the staff it included others as well.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:29:09
      Tourism, business development community, there's a whole range of staples that are
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:29:17
      Yeah, they need to show up in our...
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:29:23
      I would say that when the stakeholders were talking about this, they were thinking more like deep aground infrastructure.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:29:33
      Yeah, I was just going to say that, I mean, I'm a little curious about the risks of the economy in the city of Charlottesville, considering that, you know, the beginning of this is right here.
    • 00:29:46
      to sort of pour oil on boiling waters and it's kind of a common effect at a university.
    • 00:29:53
      Risk to the economy.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:29:56
      Every time there's been an economy bust out, Charlottesville kind of shrugs relatively sweetly.
    • 00:30:00
      Everyone around it, I'm not sure what they're talking about.
    • 00:30:04
      Yeah.
    • 00:30:06
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:30:07
      I mean, the university still gets paid.
    • 00:30:10
      Something that kind of leaks out to me, like, so I'm going to kind of figure out, like, with this, is that we kind of
    • 00:30:17
      are looking at something that is combining two corresponding variables, the perceived need for the perceived opportunities, like with the structure.
    • 00:30:29
      What's the balance?
    • 00:30:29
      I want an airplane.
    • 00:30:31
      Oh, maybe we do have a high perceived need, but maybe everyone in the stakeholder is like, oh, growth area versus growth area.
    • 00:30:38
      There's no opportunity.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:30:42
      It's definitely the best.
    • 00:30:45
      Intrinsic contradiction of there's a need, but nobody's learning about it.
    • 00:30:52
      I'm sure there's no opportunity.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:30:56
      Do we have like a polar report?
    • 00:31:00
      Is there qualitative snapshots on this?
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:31:04
      That's what the next comment I was going to make is this is very out of context, right?
    • 00:31:08
      Like we're showing you like snaps of things that we're doing within this report.
    • 00:31:12
      Once it's all in one place, we'll send that to you so that you can then see it in the context of all of the other stuff.
    • 00:31:21
      We didn't want to send in the report out to you three weeks from now without giving the survivors any vibers that will come back.
    • 00:31:31
      We're so excited to figure out.
    • 00:31:33
      We're excited to share it with you.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:31:35
      We thought there was a low perceived need for an opportunity, but we're not stressed.
    • 00:31:42
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:31:42
      Any other questions or comments?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:31:46
      Thank you.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:31:48
      And that will take us to 3D, the Regional Transit Government Study Presentation and final report, which Shannon starts with you, Mac.
    • Lucinda ShannonTransportation Program Manager
    • 00:32:12
      Thank you.
    • 00:32:13
      I think you all have heard about the Regional Transit Governance Study.
    • 00:32:19
      We have some new people tonight, so I will give a brief overview.
    • 00:32:23
      But if you have questions, please ask them and let me know.
    • 00:32:28
      We did a regional transit vision plan a couple of years ago, and they recommended that we do a regional transit governance study.
    • 00:32:35
      So this is for all of Region 10.
    • 00:32:39
      And the study goals were to review the existing transit governance in the region and identify a structure for a regional transit governance.
    • 00:32:50
      And the second goal was to identify additional funding to fund projects that were recommended in the regional transit vision.
    • 00:32:58
      So to increase funding for public transit and also
    • 00:33:03
      Williams.
    • 00:33:11
      We had extensive stakeholder engagement.
    • 00:33:14
      We talked with a lot of local stakeholders, all of the local jurisdictions several times.
    • 00:33:19
      We also talked with other regional transportation authorities and entities engaged in that type of
    • 00:33:28
      activities in the state of Virginia.
    • 00:33:31
      And we also looked at peer areas that also had transit or transportation authorities that were similar to like our area and region and our needs.
    • 00:33:47
      So the approach was we looked at the existing conditions and how we govern transit right now and how we make decisions around what we're going to spend money on,
    • 00:33:58
      and also ensure that that money is spent well and that the services are provided.
    • 00:34:04
      The next thing that we looked at was a peer analysis that was the nationwide study of looking at other communities and how they fund and govern their public transit.
    • 00:34:17
      And then we looked at potential revenue options for this area.
    • 00:34:23
      And that was guided by the peer analysis, but also the state of Virginia's kind of framework that we have to work within.
    • 00:34:33
      And so we looked at the potential revenue generations similar to what is already being used for other transportation authorities.
    • 00:34:44
      And then we worked on potential governance options and talked with the jurisdictions a lot about how they would like to see a transit governance agency work.
    • 00:34:58
      And so the consultants recommended that we form a regional transit authority and that would do regional transit planning.
    • 00:35:07
      It would bring in additional transit revenue and also decide how to spend that revenue.
    • 00:35:14
      It would have governance over the funding and the planning and also provide oversight to ensure that the public money is being spent well and efficiently.
    • 00:35:31
      So they were three recommendations that the consultants came up with.
    • 00:35:38
      One was to consider doing a rural transit needs assessment.
    • 00:35:43
      When we talked with the rural jurisdictions, they were all very interested in continuing to
    • 00:35:49
      Be involved in forming a regional transit authority.
    • 00:35:54
      However, they wanted to know like where the people were that needed the transit, what the need was and how you could meet those needs and the cost of it.
    • 00:36:05
      And we weren't able to really answer those questions.
    • 00:36:08
      And that's something that the consultants felt like we could really use and would be a big benefit for the rural jurisdictions.
    • 00:36:17
      The next
    • 00:36:19
      One was perceived value and local control and regional governance.
    • 00:36:24
      So we would continue to promote the idea of having a regional transit authority and talk to the jurisdictions and other stakeholders about how that authority would work and the benefits to the community for the authority.
    • 00:36:40
      And the last recommendation was to continue collaborating with UVA.
    • 00:36:46
      They have a transit system and they're a large part of the Charlottesville community.
    • 00:36:51
      So we wanted to make sure that they were part of the Regional Transit Authority and they have been engaged in the discussions.
    • 00:36:58
      So we want to continue that discussion with them.
    • 00:37:03
      So the next steps for this are to set up a work group to start working on forming a Regional Transit Authority.
    • 00:37:15
      We have a legislation that enables us to have a transit authority.
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      So we would activate that transit authority and start working underneath that.
    • 00:37:27
      And then we would continue to draft items, begin to work on priorities and improvements, also draft bylaws and set up the structure of how the authority would work and the governance decisions would be made.
    • 00:37:44
      And then the final step through that would be to go back to the legislature and ask for changes to our current legislation that would meet our needs.
    • 00:37:57
      So I'm asking for a motion to direct TJPD staff to continue supporting the initiative to form a regional transit authority.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:38:08
      Questions?
    • 00:38:10
      So first the general comment.
    • 00:38:13
      I didn't quite take as deep a dodge as I wanted to into this, in part because I didn't realize how many of the borders there were like I knew it.
    • 00:38:22
      I think that in terms of getting into the weeds on all of this, the appendices that go into this exhaustive research of every other significant transit authority in the state, including their enabling legislation,
    • 00:38:42
      and their violas is helpful.
    • 00:38:46
      And I'm sorry, I'm sure that everyone here met every word of that in a chance.
    • 00:38:52
      Which was sort of an interesting way, though, how other folks handled it.
    • 00:38:56
      You know, I'm sure that when we read the draft, a couple of months back, all of us were sort of enthusiastic with the Blacksburg model.
    • 00:39:04
      It was, yes, we built a system.
    • 00:39:08
      But that's not the case.
    • 00:39:12
      The other thing that I think this study really points out is that we talk about the regional, but there is this very sharp contrast between narrowing the city and anything else.
    • 00:39:23
      Like how to handle this and there do not, that study, there are new rules, studies, protocols.
    • 00:39:29
      I have, I don't think any of us have any idea how to square that circle at all.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:39:35
      That was sort of the financial
    • 00:39:38
      Thanks for reading it.
    • 00:39:42
      Yeah, it's not going to divide us pretty significant.
    • 00:39:57
      We have to get the support.
    • 00:40:01
      It's going to require a job.
    • 00:40:05
      Yeah.
    • Lucinda ShannonTransportation Program Manager
    • 00:40:05
      The existing legislation allows us to start with Charlottesville and Albemarle, and then they can opt in as they decide that it would be worthwhile for them.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:40:17
      Charlottesville and Albemarle want to be the independent person.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:40:20
      The initial thought we can hear is that we have the rural lead, and we have the funding options that are available all over, we're trying to sustain for the rural areas.
    • 00:40:30
      Again, the main genre, Forest of Dillon, rotting hell.
    • 00:40:36
      We're doing this sense, but here we are.
    • 00:40:38
      It's galling, but it means you really don't have to practically use fuel packs to drive this, for example, which seems to be the least agonizing, particularly for the world, the non-intercontinental model of the City of Charlottesville piece.
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 00:40:58
      Virtually all the funding mechanisms that are listed are things that we already have really not covered yet.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:41:06
      Yeah, I mean, there's nowhere to go.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:41:09
      And all of the existing transportation authority in the state were able to utilize the whole set of steps.
    • 00:41:15
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:41:16
      So it shouldn't be just that.
    • 00:41:18
      Smart scaling?
    • 00:41:20
      Yeah, the charter legislation is running in a stepchild.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:41:27
      Well, I think the commentary out of that is Charlottesville and UVA have functioning transit operations.
    • 00:41:35
      The urban ring of Albemarle County does not have a functional transit system.
    • 00:41:39
      So to think that we are on par with what the city has on that urban ring is not that accurate.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:41:45
      Well, no, that's true.
    • 00:41:46
      But there's still a huge abroad.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:41:49
      But Albemarle being one that has to be required to participate, we don't forget that 95% of our county is rural.
    • 00:41:57
      So Albemarle sometimes gets lumped into a urban county, sometimes for our political views.
    • 00:42:03
      But the reality of the situation is we are primarily a rural county in many ways with some urbanizing sections in our development areas.
    • 00:42:14
      So us trying to figure out as this regional transit, part of the reason we're interested in the Regional Transit Authority is to figure out the transit problems that we're having with our rural citizens.
    • 00:42:26
      So those solutions should web out and branch out to the other rural communities with similar transit concerns or obstacles, if you will.
    • 00:42:39
      Just the formation of this allows us to draw down additional funds, though, which is going to allow us to get out.
    • 00:42:46
      I think the two biggest obstacles, which is why I've been supportive of the Transit Authority since, I think, in my seventh year as a supervisor and I was campaigning and asking for this,
    • 00:42:56
      and no offense to the city or to UVA that they need to check their egos at the door because they're the ones that have CAT, they're the ones that have UTS and they have to give up some turf or some authority or some control to this body which then gives all the other jurisdictions more say and more leeway to make transit work in our system and not rely on them just like a vendor would.
    • 00:43:25
      So I think that
    • 00:43:26
      I'm all in favor of continuing and wanting to see this come to be, and I think as people learn more, especially in the rural areas, because I think it's going to be what we need to have happen to help activate transit in our rural areas, that the needs analysis in particular will identify where to buy it under the interest would be from some of our rural counties.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:43:55
      and the money still grows from the bananas.
    • 00:43:57
      The lodging tax, okay, once again, real money comes from basically the two jurisdictions that have real money for that and the idea that we're going to collect and everything is just, that's a 10-year-old battle that we're all in here too.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:44:18
      So this would be Albemarle County and city of Charlottesville staff.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:44:42
      As a starting point to begin to grab some of the stuff so it's not
    • 00:44:46
      and then pulling everybody else in to review and then begin to give input and feedback.
    • 00:44:53
      But ultimately, the city and the county have to begin the authority.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:44:58
      So that interim committee is the staff of Charlottesville, Albemarle, who's drafting the bylaws and discussing and then who's going to be able to work
    • 00:45:18
      Or is that the work?
    • 00:45:18
      That is the work.
    • 00:45:19
      The intermediate is the work.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:45:21
      Just at the end to get some of these things in place in order to then get the feedback.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:45:25
      Those sat have already started touching mountains.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:45:35
      But then those two bodies then it just jumps out to all the governing bodies?
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:45:40
      We learn about staff after that.
    • 00:45:43
      One of the things that we heard is that
    • 00:45:47
      Staff and rural jurisdictions want to be involved in this self-centered making process because they want to make sure that there are considerations made for what would it be for the rural governments to not engage in this work.
    • 00:45:59
      And so we're starting with this initial committee work group, whatever it's called, just to get some of the meat of the work done so that we can bring others in.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:46:08
      I understand.
    • 00:46:09
      But is it jumping from the work group to all the governing bodies to pass a resolution to adopt?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:46:19
      So it just doesn't remove.
    • 00:46:22
      We're looking for this world of development.
    • 00:46:24
      We've got to start with Albemarle and Charlottesville and stand with them now so we can set up.
    • 00:46:28
      Completely understand it.
    • 00:46:28
      I'm just trying to understand it.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:46:30
      Yes, sit everybody.
    • 00:46:31
      It's not weird.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:46:32
      You have to go before city council and a couple of board groups.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:46:37
      So all of this gets put in place, and then we just ask the others if they're OK with it?
    • 00:46:41
      Is that what the powers have planned?
    • 00:46:43
      It won't go before you were board, before going, breaking back out to others.
    • 00:46:47
      So they'll get a pass.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:46:49
      I'd also like to add the Regional Transit Partnership did vote to enforce the recommendations in the study.
    • 00:47:19
      and then the motion that I put in the executive directors was a recommended motion to accept the regional transit governance study final report and endorse the final recommendations of the study, which is slightly different than the original.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:47:39
      That's a recurring theme in that world.
    • 00:47:43
      We need to pull in a UVA with people in the room who can make decisions for UVA.
    • 00:47:48
      That should have four times every time UVA's participated to us.
    • 00:47:52
      And whoever we have in the room needs to be voting the decisions.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:47:56
      Which I don't know, does that speak to history?
    • 00:48:01
      Well, they're on the RTD, they're on the MDI.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:48:04
      But the university, forgive the patience, is not universally
    • 00:48:08
      across all six jurisdictions necessarily supported as a voting member on that button.
    • 00:48:13
      But I think that's, you know, a detail that still needs to be worked through is what would the role of the university be, whether that's voting member, executive CEO, stakeholder, you know, on a committee.
    • 00:48:23
      That's part of what needs to be talked about in that relationship.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:48:29
      All right.
    • 00:48:33
      Are there any other questions or comments?
    • 00:48:35
      Then staff is looking for a motion.
    • Lucinda ShannonTransportation Program Manager
    • 00:48:45
      It's a different motion than what Christine has.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:48:51
      Staff recommends a motion to accept the regional training for governance study final report and endorse it as a final recommendation.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:49:04
      Jones, is there a second?
    • 00:49:06
      All right, we'll do a roll call vote on this one.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:49:10
      Supervisor Galloway?
    • 00:49:11
      Yes.
    • 00:49:12
      Supervisor Pruitt?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:49:13
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:49:15
      Supervisor Snider?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:49:19
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:49:22
      Mr. Smith?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:49:24
      Yes.
    • 00:49:24
      Mr. Higgins?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:49:25
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:49:27
      Supervisor Barlow?
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:49:28
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:49:29
      Supervisor Woodward?
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:49:31
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:49:34
      DeBryden Reed, Richard Gjorgjiev, Thank you.
    • Lucinda ShannonTransportation Program Manager
    • 00:49:48
      I'm going rogue.
    • 00:49:50
      New topic.
    • 00:49:51
      Last time I was here talking about the mobility management program and y'all said I needed to market so I have the flyer which is over there and I just spent the last couple days with consultants surveying people within the jurisdictions, older adults and so we have a survey that we're asking people to take and you can fill it out even if you're not an older adult if you know older adults who have needs you can answer for them
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:50:22
      So those are over there.
    • 00:50:27
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:50:28
      We will move to number four.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:50:33
      I think it's a clear up agenda.
    • 00:50:49
      The minutes of the February 8th meeting will handle that.
    • 00:50:52
      Is there any changes in its corrections to the minutes needed?
    • 00:50:59
      All right.
    • 00:51:00
      Is there a motion to approve the February 8th minutes?
    • 00:51:05
      All right.
    • 00:51:06
      Motion made in the second.
    • 00:51:08
      All in favor, say aye.
    • 00:51:09
      Aye.
    • 00:51:11
      Any opposed?
    • 00:51:12
      Any abstentions?
    • 00:51:14
      We have one abstention.
    • 00:51:18
      Great.
    • 00:51:19
      And then we will go to the January financial reports on the consent agenda.
    • 00:51:23
      Christine, any items that you want to highlight or if it's overdue?
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:51:27
      At the end of January, our net quick assets were just over $1.3 million.
    • 00:51:31
      TJPDC has 9.45 months of average operating expenses in net quick assets.
    • 00:51:36
      Our goal was five months, so we're in a healthy position.
    • 00:51:40
      January, we had a positive net gain of $34,000.
    • 00:51:43
      And our total net gain to date for the fiscal year is $241,000.
    • 00:51:48
      However, with the caution that I shared with you guys last month, that with staff transitions that are occurring, there might be a need to use some of that money to contract out work into the legacies.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:52:02
      Any questions on the January financials?
    • 00:52:05
      Comments?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:52:07
      Is there a motion to speak to the new process?
    • 00:52:10
      I'll make that motion, sorry.
    • 00:52:12
      Is there a second?
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:52:15
      Second.
    • 00:52:15
      Motion made and seconded twice.
    • 00:52:18
      All in favor say aye.
    • 00:52:20
      Aye.
    • 00:52:22
      Abstentions?
    • 00:52:24
      Very good and that will bring us to number five business A is fiscal year 21 re-issued audit memo and draft fiscal year 21 re-issue their product.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:52:36
      Yes this should be a pretty quick item this is for administrative in nature
    • 00:52:40
      For folks that were with us back in 2021, TJPDC administered the state's emergency rent and mortgage relief program during the pandemic to help keep people housed during the pandemic.
    • 00:52:53
      We administered about $1.8 million in funding for that program within that fiscal year.
    • 00:52:58
      In our audit and in our schedule of expenditures of federal awards, it's called a CFO report,
    • 00:53:04
      We reported that funding as we were told that funding was received by us.
    • 00:53:08
      However, in the compliance review, we were notified by DHCD that the final tranche of funding, the final $170,000 that we received was from a different funding source that was actually a state source, not a funding source.
    • 00:53:23
      So this is an administrative process to reclassify that $170,000 from federal to state, reissue it in the audit, reissue it in the CFO report so that our records match the statistics.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:53:36
      I'm happy to take any questions on that.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:53:45
      It's interesting in looking back, because I was on the previous director, that the contract for the final frontier funding was not different at all from the first four trumps.
    • 00:53:54
      And so there was no indication that it was a state fund, other than if you go into the back end of DHCD's CAMS reporting, that's how you process invoicing.
    • 00:54:04
      You see the three letters H, P, F, and that's the housing trust fund.
    • 00:54:08
      And that's a state fund, not a federal.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:54:12
      Very good.
    • 00:54:14
      If no questions, we need a motion to approve or reissue this new year's fund.
    • 00:54:17
      Why not?
    • 00:54:18
      It will be classifying 170 grand from a federal to a state source.
    • 00:54:22
      I'll like that motion.
    • 00:54:24
      Is there a second?
    • 00:54:26
      Second.
    • 00:54:27
      All right.
    • 00:54:27
      Motion has been made and seconded.
    • 00:54:29
      All in favor, say aye.
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:54:31
      Aye.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:54:33
      Abstentions?
    • 00:54:35
      Gordon.
    • 00:54:36
      They will be the TJPDC Corporation appointments.
    • 00:54:43
      And Ruth, that's your name attached to it.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:54:48
      Yes.
    • 00:54:48
      So the TJPDC Corporation is an independent 501c3 nonprofit attached to the Planning District Commission.
    • 00:54:57
      We staff it, and it supports the mission of the TJPDC.
    • 00:55:01
      We do have some mail fees.
    • 00:55:05
      because the bylaws require that not only are there seven members and six of them are appointed by the commission, but four of them have to be current commissioners.
    • 00:55:16
      So Supervisor Andrews, Supervisor Jones, and Commissioner Wilkinson are no longer on the commission currently.
    • 00:55:25
      So they are not going to be on the corporation board anymore.
    • 00:55:30
      So we have reached out to Supervisor Pruitt, Supervisor Woodward,
    • 00:55:34
      and Supervisor will see you about filling those vacancies and they are going to be able to serve.
    • 00:55:40
      So we are recommending a motion to appoint those three to the PGA women's cooperation board.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:55:47
      And with that said, Mr. Barlow, he did say if you really wanted it, he would speak to you.
    • 00:55:52
      So that I needed to make sure that I said that.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:55:54
      I'll come with the motion.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 00:56:04
      Oksun has been made and seconded.
    • 00:56:10
      All in favor say aye.
    • 00:56:11
      Aye.
    • 00:56:13
      Opposed?
    • 00:56:15
      Aye.
    • 00:56:16
      Abstentions?
    • 00:56:17
      Very good.
    • 00:56:18
      Thank you, Bruce.
    • 00:56:22
      Okay.
    • 00:56:22
      Item C under number five, executive director evaluation process begins.
    • 00:56:28
      And I'll go over a couple of items here and Christine can jump in as needed.
    • 00:56:33
      So in the past, there have been some surveys sent to commissioners.
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      And last year, we did not do a staff survey.
    • 00:56:44
      I think that's been done every two years.
    • 00:56:46
      So Christine and I have met to start discussing how the executive director evaluation process will work.
    • 00:56:55
      The first piece would be whether or not we want to do it.
    • 00:56:59
      In the past, we've had a committee.
    • 00:57:00
      We formed an evaluation committee of three members.
    • 00:57:03
      We then receive, meet, compile, discuss, and then bring that to the board.
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      And then we bring the executive director in and discuss the evaluation as a whole commission.
    • 00:57:13
      Or we could just do that whole process as an entire commission.
    • 00:57:18
      I have brought in a new instrument.
    • 00:57:20
      We're going to try to formalize the process a little bit more or a little bit better perhaps.
    • 00:57:26
      The International City County Management Association.
    • 00:57:28
      This is one that all of your county executives or city managers are
    • 00:57:32
      typically involved with in doing professional development.
    • 00:57:34
      I have pulled the template down.
    • 00:57:36
      That template is actually very close in many ways to the previous surveys that have been used.
    • 00:57:43
      So what I'd like to do as the chair is to work with the executive director to finalize and formalize the instrument that we're going to use that would both be a self-evaluation tool that the executive director would complete, give the results to either the committee or the whole commission,
    • 00:58:01
      Once we have the self-evaluation and supporting materials from the executive director that we will complete the same instrument on the executive director, give that back to the executive director for review and response prior to then the closed session where the executive director sits down and meets with all of us as part of the event.
    • 00:58:19
      So I'll be working on that.
    • 00:58:21
      The biggest change will be, it will be the chair and vice chair.
    • 00:58:27
      We haven't talked to Tony about that step,
    • 00:58:31
      We'll do the lead on this.
    • 00:58:32
      In the past, we've had another staff member who's done all of this.
    • 00:58:37
      And frankly, the executive director's evaluation and the information held within should really be between the commission and the executive director and no other staff member.
    • 00:58:48
      So in the past, David has been, manages the surveys and sees the information and collects it and compiles it and puts it together.
    • 00:58:55
      So I'm making a recommendation or a commission that we need to do that as commission members in coordination with the executive director.
    • 00:59:02
      Then once it is done and the whole evaluation is complete, the chair will sign off on the compiled results of the evaluation instrument.
    • 00:59:12
      The executive director will sign off on the results.
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      And then that is submitted to HR to be put in the executive director's personnel fund.
    • 00:59:20
      And nobody sees that, but commissioners
    • 00:59:23
      the Executive Director, and the appointed HR official.
    • 00:59:29
      This, I think, just tightens up who sees it.
    • 00:59:32
      It puts it more in line than what I'm sure the profits in your respective jurisdictions about city manager and the executive evaluations are done on an annual basis.
    • 00:59:41
      This was something I wanted to clean up after last year's process.
    • 00:59:45
      So I'm bringing that forward to the commission for feedback and or endorsement.
    • 00:59:50
      If you agree that we'll continue with that,
    • 00:59:53
      Christine and I have already met and have started to do some comparisons of the instrument itself.
    • 00:59:58
      Our hope would be to have that finalized and to you all by the April meeting that Christine would have her self-evaluation completed by then.
    • 01:00:08
      So you would get all the materials you need to complete the instrument.
    • 01:00:13
      We would ask for that to be back to us in a timely manner so that by the May meeting, we can go into closed session and actually do the full evaluation
    • 01:00:23
      and completed.
    • 01:00:24
      So knock this out over the next 60 days.
    • 01:00:27
      That gives us time.
    • 01:00:28
      Still, we need to make any modifications for budgeting purposes relative to salary or bonuses, things like that.
    • 01:00:35
      We would have plenty of time to do that before the fiscal year is out and then the next one starts.
    • 01:00:40
      So I'm offering all of that.
    • 01:00:42
      I'm happy to take the lead and do all the work for the commission during this process in tandem with Christine.
    • 01:00:52
      So the biggest question tonight is whether or not you all want an executive committee to be the ones filling out the instrument, or if you all want to be filling out the instrument.
    • 01:01:01
      In the past, the executive committee gets it, does the evaluation, does the results, then presents to you all, and you ask questions from there.
    • 01:01:10
      I don't have a recommendation on that.
    • 01:01:11
      I'm happy to follow what the commission wants to do on that.
    • 01:01:19
      I'm more interested in
    • 01:01:20
      typing up the actual instruments or the evaluation tool and tidying up the process of who has access to that as we did in the personal talk.
    • 01:01:31
      All right, questions?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:01:35
      I probably should not be part of that much.
    • 01:01:41
      It's quite not our work.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:01:46
      And the actual work is simply
    • 01:01:49
      Once the instrument's complete, the chair will send it out to either the committee or the whole district.
    • 01:01:55
      You would send the completed evaluation back to the chair with compiled results.
    • 01:02:02
      It'll remain anonymous.
    • 01:02:04
      And then we would send it to the executive director.
    • 01:02:08
      We would all have the compiled results for the final game.
    • 01:02:11
      Supervisor Harlan?
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:02:13
      In the past, we would have made it seem like we were jumping on the guts of that.
    • 01:02:17
      and they were just on redundancy.
    • 01:02:20
      I think the full group can do it and I don't really see the need for it to come in.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:02:27
      I agree.
    • 01:02:28
      I'll kind of make notes about that except that myself included, there are so many Green State members in the commission.
    • 01:02:37
      In some respects, what's the value of their opinion?
    • 01:02:42
      What's the value?
    • 01:02:43
      Sorry, I don't know what that is.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:02:45
      That's I think that's pretty good.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:02:48
      At the ballot park, I'm only in my second evening on this commission.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:02:52
      I cheerfully acknowledge I don't have qualifications to do a performance evaluation for the executive director.
    • 01:03:01
      And we, I mean, we discussed that.
    • 01:03:02
      I mean, I think, I think the value I was coming in and had a meeting that the whole commission does this to supervisor Garland, because then when we get together as a whole crew, we're discussing it and talking about it anyway.
    • 01:03:17
      Since we're changing the instrument and the process a little bit, I'd rather have all the conditioner's hands on it so that we're all informed of how it, I hope, will work in the future.
    • 01:03:27
      So I'm kind of leading the way of not having rigidity.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:03:31
      When we did this, you still had people that
    • 01:03:39
      We weren't really involved on one of those things.
    • 01:03:43
      And so you take that information that you committed, and you still got to go through that.
    • 01:03:50
      And you're going to be voting on it regardless.
    • 01:03:56
      So I just think you don't really need to commit it.
    • 01:04:01
      But it comes back to the field board, I think, and you can make a decision.
    • 01:04:07
      You can always have the choice of yielding to the group, which is what happens a lot of times.
    • 01:04:18
      Even once the committee brings it forward, you don't necessarily know what all the committee needs.
    • 01:04:27
      So you yield to them.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:04:29
      Yeah.
    • 01:04:31
      I think as long as the, I mean, I think some of this might be dependent on what this instrument actually looks like.
    • 01:04:37
      And is there a detriment, or like you may say, oh no, it's actually Thursday.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:04:45
      And it's not a very, it's got about, I think it'll end up with at least 10, maybe 12 categories.
    • 01:04:54
      Each one is like, the first one is individual characteristics and it'll state bulleted points of professionalism and things like that.
    • 01:05:03
      And then you will give a,
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:05:05
      does not meet expectations, meets expectations, or exceeds expectations.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:05:10
      So you'll have information there that's categorized, and there will be bullets there to help with what we're shooting for.
    • 01:05:16
      There's one for the school management.
    • 01:05:19
      There's one for staffing.
    • 01:05:20
      There will be different things.
    • 01:05:22
      And again, this was all created, built by the organization, the county managers and city managers.
    • 01:05:28
      So it's not like we just made this up.
    • 01:05:30
      This was pulled down in the template we used.
    • 01:05:33
      But we have to kind of modify it because it's a planning district commission, not a county or a city.
    • 01:05:39
      So I think once you see it, it'll be pretty clear.
    • 01:05:42
      It's not real.
    • 01:05:43
      Like in the past, you were asked to rank on every single bullet point under those categories.
    • 01:05:49
      This will open up where you're giving one rank to the entire category, not each.
    • 01:05:54
      So you'll actually have 12 things you're ranking versus in the past, there were probably 40 items you were ranking on.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:06:03
      That's even more of a means that I think is necessary.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:06:21
      That's what I was driving at.
    • 01:06:22
      As long as there's a way to not answer something that no business is answering without skewing the tool.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:06:32
      We have a file result back.
    • 01:06:35
      You'll see there's 12 conditioners and people provided a rank who didn't.
    • 01:06:40
      We won't exactly know who did or didn't.
    • 01:06:43
      A lot of times in the closed meetings, somebody might bring up, oh, I was the one who did that anyway, but we'll keep it anonymous until the person chooses to disclose that it was them that gave the right to.
    • 01:06:58
      Yes, sir.
    • 01:06:59
      Oh, we are?
    • 01:07:00
      I agree.
    • 01:07:03
      Any objections?
    • 01:07:08
      So what we'll do then is we'll, the big thing is making sure if we needed, if we needed, if we wanted to do the committee, we had to name the committee members tonight.
    • 01:07:16
      So we won't need to do that.
    • 01:07:18
      We will continue to work on the evaluation instrument and we will get that out and completed.
    • 01:07:27
      Christine will complete it, the same tool that you will for her self evaluation.
    • 01:07:32
      There will be some supporting information.
    • 01:07:34
      I'm sure a staffing survey would be part of that.
    • 01:07:38
      And all of that will be, the deadline to have all that completed will be the next commission meeting, which we've already discussed.
    • 01:07:45
      And then you'll have everything in your hands that evening and we'll put it on the agenda just to remind how it'll play out, right?
    • 01:07:52
      Go on to the menu.
    • 01:07:55
      Cool, thank you.
    • 01:07:57
      And if any questions come up or concerns, you can hit
    • 01:08:01
      Me or Christine, or both of us up in the lead on that.
    • 01:08:09
      The next item, number six, old business fiscal year 24, amended operating budget memo and resolution.
    • 01:08:15
      So we have a budget fiscal year 24, amended operating.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:08:21
      So that's one thing that brought to you guys the amended FY 24 budgets.
    • 01:08:26
      There are only two changes that are recommending from last month's to this month's.
    • 01:08:30
      One of them is to reclassify funding from federal to local.
    • 01:08:35
      Three of our Virginia Telecommunication Initiative body partners, three of them are using local funding for their local contribution rather than federal ARPA funding.
    • 01:08:45
      So we're going to reclassify that in the budget from federal to local.
    • 01:08:48
      We've confirmed that with all three.
    • 01:08:50
      That's Cumberland, Louisa, and Gallatin.
    • 01:08:52
      And then the other change is that I'm
    • 01:08:55
      Minnelli, a couple thousand dollars increasing their budget for advertising in order to cast a wider net for the vacancies that we have in the transportation plan.
    • 01:09:08
      But otherwise the budget is projected revenue of $28.6 million and projected expenditures of $28.3 million with a healthy anticipated net gain of $300,000 with the caveat that I shared earlier.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:09:21
      Any questions?
    • 01:09:24
      Do you need a motion to adopt the amended fiscal year 2014 operating budget as presented?
    • 01:09:30
      Second.
    • 01:09:32
      Motion has been made and seconded.
    • 01:09:34
      All in favor say aye.
    • 01:09:36
      Aye.
    • 01:09:36
      Opposed?
    • 01:09:37
      Abstentions?
    • 01:09:40
      Great.
    • 01:09:43
      We'll get to item number seven, the executive director's report.
    • 01:09:47
      Christine?
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:09:48
      A couple of quick updates.
    • 01:09:49
      Another staff update and transition planning.
    • 01:09:52
      One of our transportation planners, Curtis, who you're presenting to you, has taken a position in North Carolina to do transit and rail planning.
    • 01:10:03
      So he is leaving the PDC.
    • 01:10:05
      All three of the vacant positions that we have right now, all of them have been advertised.
    • 01:10:09
      We've begun receiving applications and we're in the screening process.
    • 01:10:13
      We have a very robust transition plan in place.
    • 01:10:18
      Pretty much it's taking all of the duties and I would love publicly to give a kudos to my team.
    • 01:10:25
      When you say there's a lot of transition occurring, you know, there's a little bit of fear of what do I have to take on in the short term?
    • 01:10:32
      And it was the opposite.
    • 01:10:33
      It was what can I do?
    • 01:10:34
      How can I support?
    • 01:10:36
      And we put up our transition plan and the team was like, I'll do that.
    • 01:10:39
      I've got this.
    • 01:10:40
      I already have relationships with them.
    • 01:10:41
      And everything that was on our list was covered by somebody, whether on the leadership team,
    • 01:10:47
      And so I just want to give a huge kudos for the cooperation, the teamwork to get through this.
    • 01:10:54
      This is natural for our organizations to have turnover.
    • 01:10:57
      When you're small, it has a little bit larger of an impact on the day to day, but we believe we have a really good plan in place and are getting some decent applications through that we're excited about.
    • 01:11:08
      Another update I'll give is that we did submit to raise grant application that totals 3.3 million for the
    • 01:11:17
      Whitehead Ridge over the right way enough.
    • 01:11:19
      So that has been submitted.
    • 01:11:21
      And then additionally, we applied to DHCD.
    • 01:11:25
      We currently administer the Virginia eviction reduction pilot grant.
    • 01:11:30
      There was some additional funding that they had on allocated.
    • 01:11:33
      So we applied to receive additional funding on top of our existing grant.
    • 01:11:37
      So those are the two activities that occurred since the last time.
    • 01:11:40
      And that's all I have.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:11:42
      Thank you.
    • 01:11:44
      Questions on the monthly report?
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:11:49
      We are at our roundtable discussion by jurisdiction.
    • 01:11:58
      I'll look to my right, the Atlanta County Supervisor, Ryan.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:12:02
      He wants to kick us off.
    • 01:12:06
      So probably the most interesting thing is solar and talk about solar in the county.
    • 01:12:14
      In the process, the county administrator presented a
    • 01:12:17
      Black Weather is nice, schools would only ask for $340,000, which is near the low end for schools asking, which is not an elected, so we're within $350,000, which usually at the ball of the environment, the budget sausage meat, and that's not pretty much a chunk change.
    • 01:12:38
      There's always changes that come out from the commissioner, that kind of stuff, that build those gaps.
    • 01:12:48
      Black-Budget, there is a small tax increase, a good CIP, and we're talking from the standpoint of schools.
    • 01:12:59
      The discussion around solar is happening, of course, in all rural communities.
    • 01:13:07
      It's a statewide challenge to move energy to pass and to be growth from that standpoint.
    • 01:13:16
      We have three solar applications in place right now.
    • 01:13:18
      I wouldn't say any of them are particularly large, but with the change in board membership, we have looked at how Appomattox built their solar, which is basically they decided after putting in a plant that they were going to make industrial-scale solar only in the industrial zone.
    • 01:13:42
      So we have directed our planning commission to look at
    • 01:13:45
      doing the same thing, as well as maybe revising the buffer areas to match that up.
    • 01:13:54
      The practical implication of limiting solar to industrial zoning is basically that you're saying to people, we don't want any industrial solar in this county.
    • 01:14:04
      That's a practical implication which applies in the face of the resolution.
    • 01:14:15
      To that, from that standpoint.
    • 01:14:18
      And especially with the fact that you now have the ability to negotiate side payments.
    • 01:14:27
      There are some substantial revenues that can be negotiated with solar companies and solar development companies.
    • 01:14:32
      And I suspect that those pressures will continue to grow, which means prices will continue to drive up on that.
    • 01:14:38
      Ultimately, I feel as if a loss for the county takes such a move.
    • 01:14:43
      in the sense that it's denied revenue, which we'll come to see that means that we don't have the revenue that we'd like to have.
    • 01:14:52
      I think it's also an affront to robbery owners.
    • 01:14:56
      I think that there are a lot of large farm owners who have very difficult prices to pay, and they don't always have the opportunity to just pull out.
    • 01:15:17
      Finding Commission and their recommendations.
    • 01:15:20
      I have no problem with the idea of looking at expanding buffers.
    • 01:15:23
      Thank you all in the local county group for putting in a nice solar farm right on 250 with about 15 feet of buffer up the road.
    • 01:15:30
      I'm sorry, 15 feet up the road there, which by the way, I had a comment many times when you drive by, you can see it for about three seconds, but that's okay.
    • 01:15:40
      You know, this is a conversation a lot of counties are
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:15:50
      Smith.
    • 01:15:52
      Those are going to be overhead lines and monocalls.
    • 01:15:57
      I had an interesting meeting yesterday with members of the
    • 01:16:18
      Foundation, so the hospital had about $300 million.
    • 01:16:22
      And they're dedicating between $12 to $15 million a year to provide affordable housing down in that part of the state.
    • 01:16:30
      And they want to know how we set up the regional housing partnership and more so how to deploy, even though the land trust is not part of this body, to chair that, how to deploy the land trust down there.
    • 01:16:42
      It was a very interesting conversation.
    • 01:16:44
      They kind of had the opposite.
    • 01:16:49
      but don't have $15 million a year, they've got the $15 million a year but don't have to spend it.
    • 01:16:56
      Like very happily will tell them I can teach them how to spend the money.
    • 01:17:01
      So I just thought that was interesting.
    • 01:17:05
      Good news is we got on the forefront of what we do here on the regional housing partnership that they were interested down there to learn more about it.
    • 01:17:15
      So I'm actually visiting down there next week and I can report it the next month if anything
    • 01:17:20
      Exciting happens, but they've got money, you just need to know how to spend it.
    • 01:17:24
      You don't think in a meeting, I said, hey, did you spend that money anyway?
    • 01:17:33
      They went, yeah, I can't do that.
    • 01:17:36
      So I thought that was an interesting thing to share.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:17:44
      So, of course, but it's easier, which is why
    • 01:17:49
      Council Payne isn't here.
    • 01:17:50
      He's in a work session at this moment.
    • 01:17:52
      So I've been sort of narrowly nervous as opposed to watching the whole picture.
    • 01:18:01
      In terms of the budget, we are in our affordable housing fund decision making.
    • 01:18:12
      As always, I mean, there are many, many useful, good,
    • 01:18:18
      Even targeted projects and everyone's astonishment, not enough money to do it all.
    • 01:18:25
      And sort of adjacent to that is our ongoing conversations about the premier circle and how that is, how we're going to handle that with accounting.
    • 01:18:40
      That budget changes for that project there all the time, as we know.
    • 01:18:48
      Other than that, we're rolling out the CDBG stuff starting next week.
    • 01:18:55
      We are actually also in the housing space, working very seriously to line it back and standing it up.
    • 01:19:05
      We had a goal to get that accomplished by the summer, and there will be more to come on that.
    • 01:19:09
      And there are many second and third order follow on
    • 01:19:14
      The implications of that are probably going to be dangerous to people in this body, and the jurisdictions that are going to want to let it go.
    • 01:19:21
      Some further reaction to the teeth on Zoe, which is the petrimal, but we won't get over the birth pains, as it were, of the new coat.
    • 01:19:32
      And otherwise, we are trotting along.
    • 01:19:36
      I mean, it's leading through the second chapters of a lot of first chapters, and then second chapter on the climate plan segment.
    • 01:19:42
      Not literally.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:19:43
      This is the next iteration step, climate action plan and things like that, that are interesting to see and watch.
    • 01:19:50
      Thank you.
    • 01:19:51
      Do you have one?
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:19:53
      Sure.
    • 01:19:54
      So, like everyone else, we are in the Thunder Crossing.
    • 01:19:58
      This is my first Thunder Crossing.
    • 01:20:00
      It's got a very little opportunity to shape what's coming for me, but it is still my fault.
    • 01:20:08
      I think that is really amazing.
    • 01:20:11
      We are currently submitting, but the candidate was submitting a file for the course.
    • 01:20:17
      We are going to the school of the course now and see how that shapes up here on Monday.
    • 01:20:23
      And that is probably, I think, the biggest point of the potential change in our culture is going to be based on a response to the school bus that goes down.
    • 01:20:32
      I do want to speak to, I think we just had a major investment also in the assignment agreement, so I think we were kind of speaking to that.
    • 01:20:42
      Because it did come with, as far as the assignment agreement itself looks like, we've earned best practices that are phrased a lot.
    • 01:20:49
      So I think just based on what, literally the law on the health sciences, it is quite literally the best practice one could have for assignment agreement, from the perspective of the locality at least.
    • 01:21:00
      which is, you know, you had an alternative between the machine learning tools tax and the actual use tax base on the megawatt production that they have.
    • 01:21:09
      That is a challenge in calculus to know which one's going to make more sense.
    • 01:21:13
      And it requires you to anticipate future dollar values and everything.
    • 01:21:17
      Because generally, if machine learning tools starts high, it goes low, and megawatts starts low, it goes high.
    • 01:21:22
      When you need the money, yeah, you got it.
    • 01:21:25
      And you can only add them if they're not.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:21:27
      We chose the kilowatt one.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:21:29
      Well, what the firm working with Hexagon has done together, they're basically one that swaps over when the game changes based on the inflection point.
    • 01:21:42
      So when people have always been taking whichever one's higher, they have agreed basically.
    • 01:22:00
      That can be something like that, like Gallaway, that could be in a position where people want to site solar, so they do actually kind of hold more kind of negotiation.
    • 01:22:10
      That is currently under existing Virginia code, to my knowledge, the best you can do, as far as you're referring.
    • 01:22:17
      So that's why, of course, you can negotiate just straight up additional on top of that, like some, as far as like,
    • 01:22:26
      So I'm excited about that.
    • 01:22:28
      That's going to be an additional significant amount of money in the district each year.
    • 01:22:32
      It is in my district in Albemarle.
    • 01:22:37
      And another, it's honestly the biggest thing that comes to mind, specifically in the last few weeks.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:22:43
      We have our budget, our school of vision right now is projecting a $13.3 million gap.
    • 01:22:50
      8 million of that is the LCI, the deposit debit exchange state, which I don't have enough account expense
    • 01:23:01
      CIP, and the actual sales tax.
    • 01:23:03
      So the budget where they don't come to agreement on this budget, which doesn't look like they will by next...
    • 01:23:09
      They put it in the statute.
    • 01:23:10
      Oh, they did?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:23:11
      What did they come to agreement on?
    • 01:23:13
      Earlier in the day, and then it's sort of released about 35 o'clock.
    • 01:23:19
      I'm made up of questions.
    • 01:23:20
      I guess I won't dive into those right now.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:23:24
      But that $8 million could fluctuate based on the decisions, I guess, of the final budget for our schools.
    • 01:23:30
      And then they ask for $5 million in initiatives based on their needs.
    • 01:23:35
      So that would be interesting to work with them on Monday.
    • 01:23:38
      But we are keeping the property tax rate the same in Albemarle.
    • 01:23:42
      The county executives recommended that we are.
    • 01:23:44
      We'll see if the board does.
    • 01:23:45
      And then the personal property, as we've talked about before here, we had adjusted our, like the cars specifically, that value.
    • 01:23:54
      We have not readjusted that where it was after the pandemic budget.
    • 01:23:59
      So right now, all of that is remaining the same.
    • 01:24:02
      And I think I reported our real property assessments on average with just over 4%.
    • 01:24:08
      There's still additional revenue coming in depending on the rate.
    • 01:24:13
      Developer incentives passed in February.
    • 01:24:16
      This is for affordable housing, which puts our
    • 01:24:19
      The big piece is that that puts our housing policy in effect now.
    • 01:24:23
      No longer are applications grandfathered until this conversation.
    • 01:24:27
      So what that means is that for density bonus, it moves the needle from 15% total units to 20%, and it is the AMI from 80% down to 60, and extends the time frame about 30 years.
    • 01:24:40
      And the incentives that we pass are specific for rentals that is a total tax incentive
    • 01:24:49
      It's the legal word we have to use to help close the gap between the changes that we're making.
    • 01:24:56
      So we'll see.
    • 01:24:58
      It's not set in stone that it has to be the 15% tax reduction, but as we will work on it as a case-by-case basis in similar fashion than to do with economic development.
    • 01:25:10
      The last thing I'll mention, because it's connected to the Regional Housing Partnership, Mr. Smith that brought up in our executive committee
    • 01:25:19
      February, an initiative of a regional fiscal analysis around housing.
    • 01:25:25
      And this came up in a separate point in our budget conversation yesterday in Albemarle, specific to individual applications, much like Greene County, as fiscal impact analysis for each application that comes in.
    • 01:25:37
      Mr. Slick is definitely working, educated on all of these, but at the end of the meeting, I brought up the idea of a regional fiscal impact analysis
    • 01:25:49
      If that was to be discussed, it could be the housing partnership and the need for it and how that could be a benefit to the jurisdictions and was happy to say that my fellow supervisors and our county executive responded well with that notion and favorably with that.
    • 01:26:05
      So I'm just reporting that out.
    • 01:26:07
      Thank you.
    • 01:26:08
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:26:09
      I will say it kind of consists of the districts that are originally initiated.
    • 01:26:22
      There's different ways of that.
    • 01:26:25
      It might come out with different responses.
    • 01:26:30
      It could go a little bit the way that you don't think it's going to go.
    • 01:26:35
      When this was broached, just judging from our cheers at the dias, it sounded like different people were expecting a different thing.
    • 01:26:46
      It will be very interesting to see what the results are and how likely the choices are.
    • 01:26:52
      Dehrsenberry, what does it actually look like?
    • 01:26:56
      It's probably better that we actually get the analysis of the data and stuff.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:27:00
      So let the data speak for itself.
    • 01:27:04
      Supervisor Barlow, we'll move to Louisa County.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:27:07
      Hello.
    • 01:27:08
      Well, we'd like everybody in the budget session to come.
    • 01:27:13
      Things are looking pretty good.
    • 01:27:17
      I think what we have to be careful about is spending money that hasn't gone.
    • 01:27:22
      and that's what the Amazon's got attracted a little bit of expectations but let's say it's uh we also it was uh we had candidates we sort of opened up to the salt and we got flooded and so then we do some attacking acts that
    • 01:27:53
      You know, it's, and we've actually burnt cap on it.
    • 01:27:57
      It's actually what it was.
    • 01:27:58
      But Sara presented it again.
    • 01:28:01
      You know, we've almost reached it.
    • 01:28:04
      So we're, we're just not as spreaded in what's sold in any way.
    • 01:28:19
      There's not all that going on right now.
    • 01:28:21
      We've got some of these
    • 01:28:23
      Not exactly trying to get me to carry it from working with the news and it was done with the breakthrough and the breakdown of that kind of stuff from the hottest topic in the military right now.
    • 01:28:39
      I'm concerned about the Commonwealth Court.
    • 01:28:43
      And, well, the health plan would be never a manifestation of being the third fastest-growing county in the state.
    • 01:28:52
      And we're trying to figure it out one day because if people don't move here, you want all of it.
    • 01:29:02
      You want your open spaces and stuff like that.
    • 01:29:05
      But you also want all of the good things they have working for you.
    • 01:29:11
      And that's the table talk.
    • 01:29:14
      And I call that holding them.
    • 01:29:17
      The best thing is that even though we're talking about
    • 01:29:23
      even once attracted all the people, but also looking at lot sizes, because we've done a channel with, you know, Roy and Ann, me too, John, and even we allowed, I had a plot for it, more than 30 years ago, we thought, increase the sizes that you can get with anyone looking at them.
    • 01:29:46
      And the way I see it, the,
    • 01:29:50
      O'Brien.
    • 01:29:56
      When it comes to affordable housing, the only thing you've got in the economy that is affordable housing is small lots that somebody built a 12, 13-month-old branch on, and they have their mortgage payment is equal to or less than their rent would be
    • 01:30:20
      and so-called, with affordable housing, the day you walk in the door and shine, that's if you have that.
    • 01:30:31
      Whereas if you are able to purchase on and spend a lot that's, you know, $3, $4, $5, that sounds high, but
    • 01:30:43
      At least you're building equity and today you have to move or sell or something.
    • 01:30:50
      You've got some retail costs on there by a form for housing.
    • 01:30:55
      And I don't think a single soul has come up.
    • 01:30:58
      Well, I just heard you mention what you've gotten from 80%.
    • 01:31:03
      You're adding a million down to 60 or something like that.
    • 01:31:07
      And we're better than it would be.
    • 01:31:09
      But
    • 01:31:11
      You know, nobody's got to have one at a time, so we're talking it down a little bit, but some of the old ladies, like I said, they just get crowded down, all over the village, and it's really fast, and I may not have one for the future.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:31:31
      The old sounds, they're comfortable.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:31:35
      Well,
    • 01:31:35
      and then we're going to have to increase the rescue spots.
    • 01:31:42
      So that's one thing that needs to be done.
    • 01:31:47
      We're pretty quiet all of them now trying to back up and figure we have a low tax rate.
    • 01:31:57
      I mean you can't, overall,
    • 01:32:01
      But we're going to try to unclog the line and get people moving in.
    • 01:32:07
      They're going to call to do the service and lift their hand.
    • 01:32:12
      And they don't seem to realize that you just moved to a northern area.
    • 01:32:18
      You may have come from five facts and gone anywhere else.
    • 01:32:22
      and we left there because you didn't like it.
    • 01:32:25
      You didn't want to have all of the good things that you do.
    • 01:32:29
      So that's the struggle we had.
    • 01:32:34
      Most everything else is going on pretty good.
    • 01:32:36
      The budget seems to be pretty good.
    • 01:32:39
      We're in pretty good shape.
    • 01:32:41
      I think we've become too attractive.
    • 01:32:50
      and we can be a winning master.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:32:52
      Don't worry, soon enough all those people have moved down.
    • 01:32:56
      I got to tell you that, you know, a new development is going to bring in an MS-13 gang.
    • 01:33:01
      That's what I can't do, and so don't worry.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:33:03
      Well, now I've got a truck stop.
    • 01:33:07
      We're going to go into the market.
    • 01:33:13
      And, you know, it's really needed where they're going.
    • 01:33:17
      Mr. Woodward, any additional items from Louisa?
    • 01:33:50
      Wake up, man.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:33:55
      May God reverse the aisle sometimes.
    • 01:33:59
      We'll move to, if he pops back in there, we'll move back.
    • 01:34:03
      So we'll go to Nelson County.
    • 01:34:06
      Mr. Woodward?
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:34:07
      Yes, I'm sorry.
    • 01:34:08
      This thing went to mute for some reason.
    • 01:34:11
      Can you hear me okay now?
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:34:12
      Yes, sir.
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:34:13
      Okay.
    • 01:34:14
      Just one thing I'd like to add to Mr. Barlow's
    • 01:34:17
      The county board is in the process of taking the ownership and control of the airport from the Industrial Development Authority.
    • 01:34:30
      From what we were told, we were the only airport in the state that was run by an IDA.
    • 01:34:38
      And you know, that's the way it was set up years ago.
    • 01:34:41
      That was before we had an economic development department in house.
    • 01:34:47
      And so our IDA did all of that and everything.
    • 01:34:51
      So it's really gonna change the role that IDA has.
    • 01:34:55
      They had pretty much just become a situation of running the airport.
    • 01:35:00
      Of course, they still have the ability to issue bonds, which can be very important.
    • 01:35:06
      But anyway, so we're in the process of making that transition.
    • 01:35:10
      And I think we're excited about that.
    • 01:35:13
      And I think there's some advantages to the county owning it.
    • 01:35:17
      over the IDA as far as maybe some grants and getting some other money like that.
    • 01:35:22
      And we're looking to extend the runway in the next couple of years and put some new hangers in.
    • 01:35:29
      The guy that runs the airport, Forest Managers, that tells us that he could rent 20 hangers today if we had them available.
    • 01:35:38
      So anyway, I think that's kind of exciting.
    • 01:35:41
      But yeah, Louisa's doing real well.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:35:43
      Thank you.
    • 01:35:46
      I was a woman to the sex.
    • 01:35:49
      We're not taking it from the IVA.
    • 01:35:53
      We're accepting it.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:35:56
      That's right.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:35:57
      Yeah.
    • 01:35:57
      Yeah.
    • 01:35:58
      We're going to have to continue running it as they have.
    • 01:36:10
      She went about 30 years.
    • 01:36:12
      But anyway,
    • 01:36:14
      They've got all the things to do, so they would pass it up to them.
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:36:24
      Just to add to that, the IDA actually has 800 acres of land that has already been approved for major solar development.
    • 01:36:37
      So they're just waiting to get the permitting from PJM.
    • 01:36:41
      Is that the name of it, Mr. Barlow?
    • 01:36:43
      I believe.
    • 01:36:45
      Whoever it is that controls the high power lines that go through, they're waiting to get permitting from them.
    • 01:36:53
      So there's going to be a lot of revenue coming into them through that in the future years.
    • 01:37:00
      And so anyway, thank y'all.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:37:04
      Thank you, sir.
    • 01:37:05
      And to be clear, I think it's appropriate for guys to set some percentage in terms of what
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:37:17
      We got, what happened with us, we had some smoke, even my age, well when you get 13, none of that is coming in on pot.
    • 01:37:31
      You know, like I said, we have ranch, so we get it backed up.
    • 01:37:38
      Just too many, too fast.
    • 01:37:42
      and we had tremendous problems with gunning and protective.
    • 01:37:48
      It was, they completely repaired every inch of it all at one time.
    • 01:37:58
      It was a big mess.
    • 01:37:59
      I mean, nobody else would have been able to get away with it.
    • 01:38:05
      The Stonewall stuff just wasn't,
    • 01:38:12
      Dunn, and such a way that protected the farm and everybody around them.
    • 01:38:19
      Even though they've got it pretty much stabilized now, this past week, the creeks have been just muddied and
    • 01:38:37
      We've been doing our bad times from some of these huge ones.
    • 01:38:46
      We've fallen in that.
    • 01:38:49
      It's great, it's revenue, but we just got too much feedback.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:38:57
      Take a step back and check it out.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:38:59
      Yeah.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:39:01
      Supervisor Reed, Nelson County.
    • 01:39:03
      So, things are
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:39:05
      Uncomfortably quiet.
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 01:39:09
      We feel, yeah, we feel, I feel like there's, you know, many of the staff coming in behind us.
    • 01:39:17
      The planning commission has put their plans such as on our content.
    • 01:39:23
      Our supervisors are going to have our public hearing in a couple of weeks.
    • 01:39:27
      And then at the following morning, we will probably be approving that.
    • 01:39:33
      some very minor tweaks from the planning commission, like good ones, I think.
    • 01:39:39
      And then as soon as that happens, people will start saying, oh, there's just something here about Man Bank.
    • 01:39:45
      Something, all the things that are in there about things that we're aspiring to do, there are people that are thinking these are the things we want to do.
    • 01:39:51
      And start, Keith, I have to pick your brain in the next couple of weeks about such things.
    • 01:40:01
      So that's happening.
    • 01:40:02
      We haven't yet seen the budget.
    • 01:40:05
      We will see it first next week, so it's going on for sure.
    • 01:40:09
      I do know that, as you mentioned, the schools were going to be about $2 million less than they had last year.
    • 01:40:16
      It's going to be really interesting to see how we decide to deal with that shortfall.
    • 01:40:26
      I have no idea yet how it's going to happen except that we
    • 01:40:32
      That'll help us enumerably, but it won't be available for transportation probably.
    • 01:40:40
      So there's that.
    • 01:40:44
      Lovingston has been rebranded.
    • 01:40:45
      We've got a new logo for Lovingston.
    • 01:40:48
      Something that maybe at some point you'll be able to see through Nelson or when you do work with data science and things, that'd be very fun.
    • 01:40:55
      So it's actually very nice.
    • 01:40:57
      And I'll leave it at that.
    • 01:41:02
      We have started an engineering study on two pieces of water infrastructure, a possible impoundment and the Lovingston sewer water system, which would make, which would improve the sewer water at Lovingston and hopefully with the impoundment is something that the engineers feel is a possibility that will increase capacity.
    • 01:41:31
      Significantly, which will be a real good thing for everybody in that area because if you don't like development, building students will be great because we don't have the infrastructure for us.
    • 01:41:44
      And if you do, then it's a matter of time to figure out how we're going to get it because there's no developers beating on our doors to say, you know, we'll bring infrastructure with us.
    • 01:41:58
      Now that I was out.
    • 01:42:01
      It's actually very nice.
    • 01:42:02
      It's spring in Nelson County.
    • 01:42:04
      It's beautiful.
    • 01:42:04
      I was up at Crabtree Falls today.
    • 01:42:06
      Unbelievable.
    • 01:42:08
      I was, I was, I kind of facilitated that addition to the priest wilderness that wasn't in Holing.
    • 01:42:15
      It was all by a friend of mine.
    • 01:42:16
      We were lucky to work on that.
    • 01:42:18
      I was up there with the Forest Service today.
    • 01:42:19
      I felt like I was in heaven.
    • 01:42:25
      Next week will be a whole different scenario.
    • 01:42:29
      But it wasn't unusual.
    • 01:42:31
      You know, things are going well, and there's lots of positive things going on.
    • 01:42:35
      Solar, we're in the early stages of a 90 megawatt solar program.
    • 01:42:44
      Your last film, is that part of the caddy?
    • 01:42:50
      Looking to maybe do some pretty creative things with it.
    • 01:42:56
      Don't know yet what things we can do yet, so we're trying to figure out if we can
    • 01:43:00
      and the interesting thing, two of the interesting things about it, at least anyone has an input on it if that's interested, it's a 90 megawatt facility, which is just about the size that would power all of Nelson County, plus, you know, maybe 15, 20% for growth, which is, you know, when you look at it that way, you think, oh, this could be a real,
    • 01:43:29
      County Asset, if it was.
    • 01:43:31
      So we're kind of looking at that differently.
    • 01:43:34
      The other piece of it is that it's one that's going to, as proposed, connect with Appalachian Power, which only really serves a tiny part of Nelson County.
    • 01:43:48
      We have a great relationship with SEVAC.
    • 01:43:50
      SEVAC can't do this because it's a co-op.
    • 01:43:52
      So trying to figure out
    • 01:43:58
      what that means for SEVAC, what that means for Nelson, what that means for AUP.
    • 01:44:03
      Do we really want to be a cash cow for AUP?
    • 01:44:08
      We really would like to be supportive of all of this.
    • 01:44:10
      So we're kind of trying to figure out what all this means as it goes together.
    • 01:44:16
      It's in the early stages.
    • 01:44:18
      So the things are not going really fast, which is great.
    • 01:44:23
      But no one's saying, click now to make it happen.
    • 01:44:30
      S.A., it's on the horizon.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:44:36
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:44:38
      Mr. Higgins, I was going to count.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:44:41
      Very briefly, last month, Christine led a delegation of TJ staffers up to Scannersville to attend a meeting of the Greene County Board of Supervisors.
    • 01:44:51
      Fergus Scarpignano gave a presentation about the Safe Streets Initiative.
    • 01:44:56
      The presentation was
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:44:57
      O'Brien, Thomas, just a quick update on your cabinet.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:45:12
      2023 non-HOA sales, new construction,
    • 01:45:41
      In order to afford an 80% AMI, you can't exhibit $200,000 in sales force.
    • 01:45:53
      I'm trying to get the money from South West Virginia.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:45:57
      I'm trying to do it.
    • 01:46:00
      They are still getting tobacco.
    • 01:46:05
      We have some kind of debt.
    • 01:46:11
      When we talk about it for a while, it looks like we can't get in that conversation about it without talking about it sometimes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:46:22
      Well, you cannot do it without some mere assumption.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:46:25
      Well, exactly.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:46:29
      I'm getting to hard.
    • 01:46:34
      We don't, to get at home without a non-profit or a habitat model or a man trust or something, that incentive package is purely specifically targeted towards the realm.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:46:51
      This is the conversation that we've come to have, which, can you have all the violence
    • 01:47:02
      that is not subsidized by everybody else.
    • 01:47:07
      And that's the problem we struggle with because most of us, you know, I walk around and we work.
    • 01:47:17
      So it's really hard to take money, you know, taxpayers to subsidize, you know, somebody else.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:47:29
      So there's no silver bullet for this?
    • 01:47:31
      There's a silver buckshot, right?
    • 01:47:33
      And it each has its own thing.
    • 01:47:35
      So I do have a little ad for Polvanna County.
    • 01:47:40
      The Land Trust is doing its first two homes in Lake Monticello.
    • 01:47:45
      And we're capitalizing on $150,000 and we're going to, we bought two homes at $215,000, we'll sell them at $215,000, put a little bit of work in the HVAC system and so forth and so on.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:47:57
      We raised that money from multiple different sources.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:48:00
      None of that money came from Hobartica.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:48:04
      None of it.
    • 01:48:06
      We have the Louisa, well, Blue Mountain, as a foundation.
    • 01:48:12
      It doesn't break down.
    • 01:48:13
      And if you go there, it's subscribe.
    • 01:48:18
      But in order to get into it and qualify,
    • 01:48:22
      You have to have some of the game.
    • 01:48:24
      In other words, you working on a thing was like three different houses and to help build those up and then you could be able to help people and then you work and get what's up.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:48:38
      It's doable, but you have to pull through multiple different sources.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:48:43
      I think that's the big struggle we have is how do you provide housing and not have
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:48:51
      You have to want it, first of all.
    • 01:48:54
      You have to want it, first of all.
    • 01:48:57
      Well, I think...
    • 01:48:58
      Anyway, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    • 01:49:02
      I'll get over a bunch of old bosses.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:49:04
      I can tell you that the rural affordable housing conversation and the folks that are involved with the regional housing partnership, they have definitely been expressing the need for us,
    • 01:49:20
      Robust and rigorous conversation just in the rural nature of the battle for the housing workers and welfare contingent.
    • 01:49:27
      That's something that we discussed in the executive committee this past month.
    • 01:49:31
      So hopefully more to come about taking the people that are actually working in the space and by June, seeing what they come up with in terms of priorities and how the partnership could be helpful to the jurisdictions and trying to tackle it.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:49:47
      You know, I think the biggest obstacle we have is working with Birmingham.
    • 01:49:53
      And then nobody, nothing's free.
    • 01:49:56
      So ultimately, whether it's New York County tax pay for it, or federal, state and federal tax plans, I just, I don't know where you get the money to back their local house.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:50:13
      No one else seems to have this problem.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:50:21
      Well, he's not online listening tonight, but Neil Williamson, the quote that he's been saying quite a bit is that if a community decides that affordable housing is a community priority to provide, then the community has to pay for it.
    • 01:50:41
      And I think that captures the notion of your taxpayers, if they say affordable housing is important and they're supporting electives to work on that as an issue, then it's okay for that community to then subsidize the health.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:51:00
      We've been talking about this for a long time.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:51:06
      A thing that would be super helpful, because I think the two jurisdictions, the regional housing partnership, and it's not about who we're going to show on, it's Louisa and Pullman account.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:51:18
      You know, this is from the board.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:51:25
      I think what the board also recognizes is that it was literally written article that people are now saying, don't go to Florida, retire, come to Virginia, because it's more in my area, it's better.
    • 01:51:35
      I think one of the things that we're kind of ignoring is that it's been said several times it's everybody's moving from up north so they're trading their $800,000 with $400,000 but the problem isn't those people come here and buy a $400,000 home it's the people that are your kids that are living there that can't afford to buy a house or can't afford
    • 01:52:09
      As much as you'd like to say, hey, $400,000 is cheap, you know, for the average person who is starting off making $60,000 or maybe their stock is making $50,000.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:52:20
      Yeah, they're basically barely qualified for that.
    • 01:52:24
      So as a quick summary of this issue, on my street, there was a 1970 foot 2 module on an unfinished basement.
    • 01:52:38
      Couple have been living there for 110 years.
    • 01:52:41
      They moved into assisted living, got sold on the cheap because, you know, their bathroom, the interior of this house and everything that was bad about the 1970s, except maybe Richard Nixon in the Leisure, so everything had to go.
    • 01:52:58
      Gets put on the market, this is 960 square feet, three bedroom, one bath, so oil ready, they have a little functional oscillation problem.
    • 01:53:06
      $445,000.
    • 01:53:09
      Now if you happen to have, sitting around, 10% of that sales price, at the current mortgage rates, in order for a client to say you're not housing burdened, you have to make $142,000 a year to buy that house.
    • 01:53:25
      That 960 square foot, three bedroom, one mad house, over an unfinished basis.
    • 01:53:29
      Oh, by the way, you need to fix it up.
    • 01:53:31
      No, it's in pretty good shape, this one.
    • 01:53:34
      This is supposed to work, but nonetheless.
    • 01:53:37
      That's sort of being affordable.
    • 01:53:39
      It's affordable for somebody making $12,000 a month.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:53:41
      Well, how about the one that hit the forest out four thousand steps above the $300,000 scale?
    • 01:53:46
      Is that what you said until we moved up the street?
    • 01:53:48
      We sold the bar.
    • 01:53:49
      A local guy, we bid $200 on it.
    • 01:53:53
      I couldn't make an ad work after that, so.
    • 01:53:56
      So it would be a problem.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:53:58
      Yeah, it was only everyone that brought it with us.
    • 01:54:01
      Yeah, that was 150 people there.
    • Ned GallawayChair, Planning District Commission
    • 01:54:03
      John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien,
    • 01:54:31
      All right, thank you.
    • 01:54:33
      Good roundtable.
    • 01:54:35
      Tenant of items for next meeting.
    • 01:54:37
      We've got appointment of nominating committee for officers for new folks.
    • 01:54:43
      The leadership does switch over at the fiscal year.
    • 01:54:47
      Operating the next fiscal year's items for the operating budget.
    • 01:54:52
      You can see the number of items listed on the agenda.
    • 01:54:54
      Anything you want to note or throw out there, Christine?
    • 01:55:00
      No?
    • 01:55:00
      Then that brings us to our adjournment.
    • 01:55:02
      Is there a motion to adjourn?
    • 01:55:04
      All in favor say aye.
    • 01:55:10
      Thank you everyone.